Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Can't Seal the Deal on the First Date when She Drives There

PepperSpray

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I'm on a vicious cold streak. In 2012, I've gone 1/15 on POF first dates. Only 1 bang and no second dates (I don't bother asking them out on second dates, and they never initiate contact with me afterwards).

I always ask girls to meet me at a pub that's a 2 minute walk from my place.

Of the 15 first dates, I only managed to bring 4 girls back to my pad. 1 girl I banged, 1 girl I managed to get into bed though no clothes came off, 1 refused to go any further than a kiss, and 1 refused any physical escalation.

Of all my online first date bangs in past years, the one commonality I've noticed is none of the girls drove to the pub (including the one I banged this year). But girls who are driving will refuse to have more than one drink, and instead of coming back to my place most will simply just walk back to their car.

I feel like girls driving is a logistical hurdle I can't overcome. Are there players who've had success with banging girls who drive on the first date from online? How do I get over this?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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pinkfl

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No, its that you never call for a second date, and you expect sex right away and it shows. Has absolutely nothing to do with who drives and everything to do with the fact that you have a lot to learn.
 

Fly By Night

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You've rationalized your failures by blaming a fact that has nothing to do with the problem at hand. You're just making excuses. That's like saying if I take a cab to a club, I don't want to have sex with any women there. I think we need more info on what you are doing during these dates. And yes, we normally wait for the woman to text saying she had a great time, but if she doesn't, just wait a few days then plan another date. I'm sure you would have had higher numbers simply by pushing your ego to the side and confidently persisting.

Show a little bit more ambition than that.
 

incognito42

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Yes. I usually wait til I walk her to her car, then I go for the first kiss, and then tell them to come over and watch a movie. If there into the date an into the kiss it's pretty simple after that

Good luck out there! Don't let pof chicks discourage you, they're only good for one thing anyways ;)
 
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