"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

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Can't really tell if shes fat from the pics - Do you still meet her?

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So this chick sent me a pic of her and from the pic its really hard to tell if shes fat or not. It's not really a myspace angle, its just it looks like she might have a little chub shes hiding behind her arms and her decently sized tits. I can handle a bit of chubbyness, but straight up fat I don't do. She can be +/- 25lbs or so from the pics. So I decied to say **** it and go all in and meet her tonight.

What do you guys usually do in my situation, meet anyway and make an excuse if shes fat? It seems like that would be really hard to get away with and not look like a complete *******. Or do you ask for more pics? It seems like asking for more pics is kinda ******* too.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'm sure you're going to get flamed, but here's what i think. Chances are she's fatter than the pic shows. Women know exactly how they look, and want to look in pics, and make sure that they look their possible best before sending out that pic. But, if it's not that noticeable, i.e, 5-10 lbs overweight, who cares?? Don't make up an excuse to ditch her, just go somewhere where you won't feel ashamed to taker her. Maybe she'll be really cool, if nothing else you can practice on her, either game, or a lil f-session if she's down. If she ain't cute, pass her to one of your boys who doesn't mind, or keep her as a friend and try to meet her hotter friends. Good luck.
 

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Meet her somewhere like Old Country Buffet. That way if she is fat and you want to ditch at least she'll be comforted by the all you can eat buffet
 

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LMAO. Nuff said. Go w/ what theunflushables told you.
I give you props for that btw.
 

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hahaha theunfluahables' answer is funny, but when it comes to these things, I'd look for a meet-up spot or a date that gives you a good "out" clause.

The perfect place...just go get coffee for 30-45 mins. If things aren't going well, just say you gotta get going. If you were to take her to a resturaunt or bowling or to the movies, you have to sit there start-to-finish, and that never ends well if you're not into it.

Drewskie's advice is also good btw.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Yea take the quick date approach. Meet her for coffee, which usually only lasts about a half hour. Just enjoy a cup of coffee, and if she's too fat, say you gotta go after the coffee. If she's not too fat, that's when you can keep the date going and go somewhere else after coffee.
 

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Zircon916 said:
So this chick sent me a pic of her and from the pic its really hard to tell if shes fat or not. It's not really a myspace angle, its just it looks like she might have a little chub shes hiding behind her arms and her decently sized tits. I can handle a bit of chubbyness, but straight up fat I don't do. She can be +/- 25lbs or so from the pics. So I decied to say **** it and go all in and meet her tonight.

What do you guys usually do in my situation, meet anyway and make an excuse if shes fat? It seems like that would be really hard to get away with and not look like a complete *******. Or do you ask for more pics? It seems like asking for more pics is kinda ******* too.

She is probably asking the exact same questions to her girlfriends about you.

"What do you girls think I should do if he's too short? Meet anyway and make an excuse if he's short? It would hard for me to ditch him if he's too short. I can handle a bit of shortness, but straight up short I don't do. Should I ask him for more pics?"

Unless you are Brad, don't put other people down.
 

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Update -

As I suspected, she was a bit chubby. Not really bad but I'd say border line on whether I'd hit it or not. I was pretty drunk tonight so I probably would of hit it if I had the opprotunity but it didn't come up. Sad thing is she was really a great person and very smart but I wouldn't date her cause shes too chubby. I'll probably try to hit it but thats about it.
 

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What do you mean the "opportunity" didn't come up? Do you mean your dlck? Were you too drunk to f-close?

PUA's and DJ's play it sober. Did you go for the liquid courage and turn an easy ONS with FB potential into a chubby-chasing scenario?

I'm being harsh, but I hate to see a DJ not close the deal with a fat girl. That's bad karma. Fat girls are fun to fvck and good at giving head. Plus they need the calories. Don't deprive them!
 

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Fat girls are like riding pink mopeds. They're fun until your friends catch you riding one. That being said, I am sure we all have a pink moped or two somewhere in the back of the garage. I know I do.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Why don't you just ask her? Since the internet is a cold mean place, I always ask girls if they are athletic looking since that's what I like. I especially don't go out with a girl if she either skirts the question or tries to hide something because she is hiding something that she knows you don't like. Or just be a **** and ask her how much she weighs-- girls ALWAYS wonder if a guy is short or tall and have no problems asking.

On recent internet escapades, I just ask the girl if she is hot. They know if they are hot or not, trust me. Their answer determines if I will continue talking with them or not.
 

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thedeparted said:
What do you mean the "opportunity" didn't come up? Do you mean your dlck? Were you too drunk to f-close?

PUA's and DJ's play it sober. Did you go for the liquid courage and turn an easy ONS with FB potential into a chubby-chasing scenario?

I'm being harsh, but I hate to see a DJ not close the deal with a fat girl. That's bad karma. Fat girls are fun to fvck and good at giving head. Plus they need the calories. Don't deprive them!
No I wasn't too drunk to f-close. What I mean is I didn't get her back to my place, instead she went home from the night out of drinking and I didn't invite her up. Maybe I should of invited her up but I got the vibe she wouldn't go for the ONS so I didn't push my luck and decided to save it for next time.

BTW she wasn't straight up fat, she was just chubby. If she was fat I would of left within 5 minutes of meeting her.
 

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theunflushables said:
Fat girls are like riding pink mopeds. They're fun until your friends catch you riding one. That being said, I am sure we all have a pink moped or two somewhere in the back of the garage. I know I do.
Sorry bro not for me. No fats girls, period. Chubby is ok (and only to a certain extent), but fat girls I can't get into. I wouldn't even be able to get it up.
 

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This thread is hiliraous as fcuk

lol @ all the comments

First off, I went on a date a few days ago, and I thought this girl was "curvy" come to find out she was fat. Then I went back on her page and noticed her pictures where 5 years old (didn't know how I didn't noticed before) I felt played, would I have hit it? sure, but it wouldn't have been worth it at all.

Peace
 

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Solomon said:
This thread is hiliraous as fcuk

lol @ all the comments

First off, I went on a date a few days ago, and I thought this girl was "curvy" come to find out she was fat. Then I went back on her page and noticed her pictures where 5 years old (didn't know how I didn't noticed before) I felt played, would I have hit it? sure, but it wouldn't have been worth it at all.

Peace

Thats exactly what I'm talking about! Just ask the b1tch if she is hot so you don't waste your time. Theres nothing worse than looking deep into a girls eyes and having to say:

"you have absolutely no chance with me and I am offended that you lied about the way you look. I'm leaving now"
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Zircon916 said:
Sorry bro not for me. No fats girls, period. Chubby is ok (and only to a certain extent), but fat girls I can't get into. I wouldn't even be able to get it up.
I was thinking the same thing. I mean, azz is azz right?? For a while I was considering saying f-it and be a chubbt chaser, since i know a few fatties that want my nuts. But... the one time I did hook up with one, not even fat, just chubby, it wasn't doin anything for me. I was kissin her, and i went i went to put my arms around her and felt her body, it was a huge turn-off. Maybe it's shallow as hell, but I blame the lil head, not the big one.
 

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Duffdog said:
Thats exactly what I'm talking about! Just ask the b1tch if she is hot so you don't waste your time. Theres nothing worse than looking deep into a girls eyes and having to say:

"you have absolutely no chance with me and I am offended that you lied about the way you look. I'm leaving now"

lol @ Duffdog

What killed me was those pics of her where from friggin 5 years ago and I didn't noticed!!!

I'm not even gonna say how old she was cause I'm embrassed but yeah she kinda let herself go already shame....
 

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Chubby is still fat. Lets call a spade a spade.
 

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Duffdog said:
Thats exactly what I'm talking about! Just ask the b1tch if she is hot so you don't waste your time. Theres nothing worse than looking deep into a girls eyes and having to say:

"you have absolutely no chance with me and I am offended that you lied about the way you look. I'm leaving now"
Haha, have you actually said that to a girl before? :D
 

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Chubby is still fat. Lets call a spade a spade.
Not if that spade turns out to be a backhoe :|

Chubby. that's as far as i've gone. And by that i mean yes, there is a layer of fat but it's not gone so far as to create folds of flesh you can hang onto should you fall off the bed.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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