Can't get passed 1st date

[rusty_boi]

Hey Guys

So i have a problem that i'm at a bit of a wits end with. Basically when I speak to a girl via text or the phone I go really well, getting a date isn't hard for me. Problem is, once i'm on the date I rarely get passed the 1st date. I don't get nervous before the date so it's not like i'm not confident on the date. It doesn't matter if i am interested or not I get nothing after the 1st date.

The only time I have been successful is when I have been a jerk to women on the date, but i find women who like this sort of behaviour unattractive and cant get emotionally invested. My last GF was one of these women and I couldn't have cared less if or when I saw her.

Now the only thing I can think of, which i'm the first to admit is I don't really flirt heaps (or usually kiss) on the first date. I struggle to transition the conversation from pleasantries to flirting, is this my biggest issue or is there something else I am/am not doing? and any advice on how I can fix it?

 

[Dhoulmagus]

You are either not showing enough sexual interest or you are going for the wrong type of girls

 

[rusty_boi]

You are either not showing enough sexual interest or you are going for the wrong type of girls

Any advice on how to show more sexual interest? And what do you mean by wrong type of girls?

 

[Reykhel]

Hey Guys

So i have a problem that i'm at a bit of a wits end with. Basically when I speak to a girl via text or the phone I go really well, getting a date isn't hard for me. Problem is, once i'm on the date I rarely get passed the 1st date. I don't get nervous before the date so it's not like i'm not confident on the date. It doesn't matter if i am interested or not I get nothing after the 1st date.

The only time I have been successful is when I have been a jerk to women on the date, but i find women who like this sort of behaviour unattractive and cant get emotionally invested. My last GF was one of these women and I couldn't have cared less if or when I saw her.

Now the only thing I can think of, which i'm the first to admit is I don't really flirt heaps (or usually kiss) on the first date. I struggle to transition the conversation from pleasantries to flirting, is this my biggest issue or is there something else I am/am not doing? and any advice on how I can fix it?

Well you said it in your last sentence, no?

INO your whole fvcking frame is wrong......why? there is no transition.....
You're either a sexual animal or you're not.........get that into your head now....be sexual from the
word go. You have to remember that it's your frame. Invite her into your frame. be sexual always.

 

[Reykhel]

When you're busy doing your own things this is what you
will sing......

the difference in caring..............between caring is actually pretty small.....

How I wish you were here...........say it ironically

 

[Von]

Got the same issue.... whatever I have a kiss or a laid which is 50/50 on my date count.... I don't get a 2nd date or a FWB and don't care much but the girl usually dissapear

 

[bigneil]

1) A man can't intentionally be a jerk. He is called a jerk when he doesn't care enough to call her again (IF she is attracted).

2) What are you doing on your dates? Are you asking them to go dutch? Are you taking them to Starbuck's - or worse - Subway? If she's not getting a $20 value by spending time with you (meaning you spend $40), is she going to spend $10 on makeup and 2 hours getting ready? Is she going to consider you enough of a provider to start a family?

3) Are you talking about the relationship too much? Or at all? Don't. That's her job.

4) Always remember guys: she thinks she's too good for you. You have to prove her wrong.

5) Did you exchange a walk on part in a war for a lead role in a cage? Sorry, that was Pink Floyd.

 

[rusty_boi]

Well you said it in your last sentence, no?

INO your whole fvcking frame is wrong......why? there is no transition.....
You're either a sexual animal or you're not.........get that into your head now....be sexual from the
word go. You have to remember that it's your frame. Invite her into your frame. be sexual always.

So you're saying flirt from the word go?

 

[marmel75]

Any advice on how to show more sexual interest? And what do you mean by wrong type of girls?

Take her hand and put it directly on your c0ck put your hand on top and massage her hand...unless she really isn't into you she will continue by herself...

 

[dustmuffin]

I am having this issue too. I kino the hell out on them. They let me leave my hand on their thigh. I am not good at flirting. I use kino instead. I have gotten the kiss close and other escalation and can't get a second date. Anyone have any good examples of flirting on you tube that might help?

 

[MrWood]

@dust: that statement vs your post count troubles me.

 

[Reykhel]

So you're saying flirt from the word go?

In a way, yes.

However, you need to always be congruent with who you are. In other words if you try to flirt and you're not that sort of person it can come across weird.

What's the solution? Look, this is why I am a big fan of natural day game. And I believe that the object of natural day game is to make you a social animal who is comfortable in all social settings everywhere.

What happens after that.......if you score, if you make friends is all a by product of a very capable social animal......

Where does it begin? It begins with talking with strangers on a daily basis. Everyone....smaill conversations. With no outcome in mind. Well the outcome or the objective is simply to have fun.

If you want to learn to flirt with one girl you need to learn to flirt with all girls.......but what is flirting to you? Ten people may have ten different definitions..........but look, a good start is just to try to have fun with everyone........how? ball bust, take the piss, banter......

The secret is to create tension......if you create tension with women.......whether it's good or bad....you engage her emotions.......you engage her emotions and you're in wet panty territory.....

Look at this classic clip from good fellows......the don't know if Tommy is being serious or not......the tension is palpable.....