"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Can you suggest books about social engineering, or psychological manipulation?

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Im interested in any solid book which gives fundamentals of social engineering and how to manipulate human interaction.

A book like the 48 laws of power has been very useful but now Im looking for something more specific, any suggestion?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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This isn't a book about social engineering or how to manipulate human interaction, but a good read is Conditioned Reflex Therapy, by Andrew Salter.

If you're looking for a book on social engineering, you can get "Propaganda" by Edward Bernays for free, legally. It's in the public domain. If you want to learn more about Bernays, you can find an article on him in Wikipedia. I dislike his attitude that the so-called upper class know what's best for everyone but his methods, from what I've read, probably work.

Conditioned Reflex Therapy, even though it isn't written with the same outcomes in mind, will give you a decent understanding of the nature of our conditioned and unconditioned reflexes. It's a good read. Probably will give you a better understanding if you read it first and read Propaganda after reading it.
 

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Is there something particular that makes you want to read on these topics? Not sure if it's what you're looking for but might want to check out ordo ab chao(order out of chaos.)
 

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1984 and Brave New World ?
 

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Out of curiosity...why are you seeking these books?

who would you like to manipulate?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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"how to win friends and influence people " by dale carnegie
"never be lied to again" lieberman
"psycho-cybernetics" maxwell
"the prince" machiavelli

also read up on hypnosis and some spy stuff plus a little sociology and maybe history
after reading these books i can now manipulate most of the people around me ,i know, i'm a scumbag ....
good luck
 

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Aristippus said:
This isn't a book about social engineering or how to manipulate human interaction, but a good read is Conditioned Reflex Therapy, by Andrew Salter.

If you're looking for a book on social engineering, you can get "Propaganda" by Edward Bernays for free, legally. It's in the public domain. If you want to learn more about Bernays, you can find an article on him in Wikipedia. I dislike his attitude that the so-called upper class know what's best for everyone but his methods, from what I've read, probably work.

Conditioned Reflex Therapy, even though it isn't written with the same outcomes in mind, will give you a decent understanding of the nature of our conditioned and unconditioned reflexes. It's a good read. Probably will give you a better understanding if you read it first and read Propaganda after reading it.
FinalWay said:
Is there something particular that makes you want to read on these topics? Not sure if it's what you're looking for but might want to check out ordo ab chao(order out of chaos.)
foreverAFC said:
1984 and Brave New World ?
Im looking more for learning techniques than general culture something which I can apply for my gain, Im interested in the "how to" more than in the "how it works globally".



Burroughs said:
Out of curiosity...why are you seeking these books?

who would you like to manipulate?
Because Im a very ambitious and greedy individual and Im ready to use any possible tool to accomplish my goals, wheter morally or not...the more I live in this world the more I realize my biggest fear is being "one of the many" a drone in the herd.


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"how to win friends and influence people " by dale carnegie
"never be lied to again" lieberman
"psycho-cybernetics" maxwell
"the prince" machiavelli

also read up on hypnosis and some spy stuff plus a little sociology and maybe history
after reading these books i can now manipulate most of the people around me ,i know, i'm a scumbag ....
good luck
Read lieberman's never to be lied again last year, pretty good book, is that psycho-cybernetic as good as that?
 

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Who Dares Win said:
Read lieberman's never to be lied again last year, pretty good book, is that psycho-cybernetic as good as that?
Lieberman's is pretty good. Psycho-cybernetics is more for inner game.

Another of Leiberman's books is "How To Get Anybody To Do Anything," and is pretty much based on the covert - influence part of NLP (other parts of NLP are therapy and inner game)

Another good one is Kevin Hogan's "Covert Persuasion."
 
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Robert Greene's "Art of Seduction." I haven't read it yet, but I believe that it's supposed to be about swaying people to your way of thinking.

Worth a look; it'll be a good read, if nothing else.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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lol how to manipulate people's minds. So you want to have better conversations with people basically.

@Tyte Eyes I have Art of Seduction. It's ok, nothing to write home about. it kind of encourages acting gay to get what you what, and I didn't like that. Law of Power 48 is way better

I would recommend a few books I personally liked

The Game by neil strauss - It was really cool to get inside the mind of a nerd loser, who made his way to charming everyone around him. The point of view style of the book helped me a lot!

The Millionaire Fastlane - Ok so this book is about money and making money, but it is my absolute favorite book ever! What it boils down to is, people want to know you based of what you offer them (excluding family sometimes) So this book talking about tuning your mind's frequency to that of an entrepreneur.

So basically offer value to people. He's got videos on youtube too that you can watch, before you read the book
 

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Catch Me If You Can, a non fiction book about a real life "pretender". you wont believe the stuff he got away with. even talked himself out of jail once, walked right thru a cop raid/ambush, got off of a plane that cops overseas put him on, deporting to US. amazing stuff.
 
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