"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

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Can you help me revert this ? (Text game)

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Me: Hey some friends and I are going to the baseball game on tuesday - theres an extra ticket - come join us.

Her: Sounds like fun! Do you have an extra ticket so that I can bring my friend?

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Okay DJ's I know my first problem was that I wasn't clear on what exactly I meant by "friends" its more of a double date kinda deal. By friends i meant, my buddy and his gf , me + her . Baseball games are a fun way to break in for first dates.

Advice? If i say yes, i am **** blocking myself.'

Possible Replies:

- "she has to buy a ticket, but i love threesomes, make sure shes cute."
- "you had plans with another friend, we'll do something another time"
 

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yuppaz

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Ditch the threesome line, just tell her that you only have one more
 

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Looking at this from the side lines she seems like an ungrateful b!tch.
 

spang

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maybe say sorry i dont i just want you to come with me. this is almost like being in a bar and you buy her and her friend a drink but you still dont get laid. moochers
 

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TRSX said:
Me: Hey some friends and I are going to the baseball game on tuesday - theres an extra ticket - come join us.

Her: Sounds like fun! Do you have an extra ticket so that I can bring my friend?

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Okay DJ's I know my first problem was that I wasn't clear on what exactly I meant by "friends" its more of a double date kinda deal. By friends i meant, my buddy and his gf , me + her . Baseball games are a fun way to break in for first dates.
Are they good first dates? Seems kinda weird. Both of your attention will focus between the game and each other. You're sitting next to each other, but awkwardly. Not to mention, you made it a double date.

This all might be cool if you guys are really young, like younger than 21.

Anyway, back to your question...

Advice? If i say yes, i am **** blocking myself.'
Right. So say no. You don't have an extra ticket. Your friend bought 4. And all 4 of the seats are together. No room for a 5th.

Possible Replies:
- "she has to buy a ticket, but i love threesomes, make sure shes cute."
Sounds forced. Don't say that.
 

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Edit: I'm disengaging this date - told her only 4 seats. Sloppy
But well see what happens
 

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How does this thread even exist?

Just say "No." You only have one ticket and it's for her.

A reply like: "Nah I only got one left" will suffice. You should also never invite girls to group outings on your 'first date.' It's a pressure scenario. Whether you want to look at it this way or not, for a chick it's basically her first impression on not only you but your friends also. There is a lot of pressure you aren't thinking about when you ask her to a group outing with JUST your friends. It may be the reason she insisted on bringing one of HER friends, and also a reason that she might decline your offer altogether if you tell her you only have a ticket for her.

My suggestion would have been just to go to the game with her. I've been on plenty of beisbol dates with chicks and you're right, it's a great time. Why complicate things with other parties...ESPECIALLY on the first date.
 

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Plain and simple, im overthinking things. Time to grab my ballsack and move forward
 

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She is asking to take along a friend because she is insecure of the entire situation. Don't do group dates because the other couple puts pressure on the entire situation. By taking the girl you are interested in on a group activity, you actually make it hard on yourself because you can't be alone with the girl. Your second choice is better.

You should be dictating the terms on which you guys see each other. If you are not comfortable with it then tell her next time. And chances are her friend is a ****block so that she is safe.

Pay attention to the female intimacy vs. attention ratio. You give attention i.e. time for female intimacy. Now look at the entire thing: She gets a free baseball game, which is a time consuming activity. And you on the other hand have to deal with her and her friend making your chance for her intimacy pretty low. Basically she is trying to bargain you in dictating the terms. How much of her intimacy does she have to give in, in order to get attention from you.
 

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LOL @ a baseball game being a "good first date".

What better way to build attraction than having her attend a boring sporting event that she can't easily escape from if she doesn't like you.
 
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