"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Can you cancel out neediness by flaking on HER?

tomato

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Can you cancel out neediness by flaking on HER?

I was a little over eager to invite a girl over to cook for me same day or next day after the date - can I heal the damage done by cancelling now? As in cant I just text her "I decided its better you don't come over again so soon"
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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SamTheHobit

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I'm not sure wanting to see a girl is conidered needy.. But texting her every 5 mins is.
 

Jariel

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It can work, but there are no guarantees. I did try this pre-emptive rejection on a girl before and it worked like magic, but then other times I've tried it I ended up getting nowhere. Once you start getting into these mind games, it's a downward spiral.

The question I have to ask is why do you feel you need to flake if she agreed to come round? If she's up for it, then go with it and enjoy your time. Just play it a bit cooler in future.
 

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tomato said:
Can you cancel out neediness by flaking on HER?

I was a little over eager to invite a girl over to cook for me same day or next day after the date - can I heal the damage done by cancelling now? As in cant I just text her "I decided its better you don't come over again so soon"
Texting her that would be so much worse.

1. It shows you constantly analyze things.
2.You "decided" that just now? What after some long and intense thinking you had about it? Freaking psycho.
3. The way you say it makes it sound very heavy. Which means you're no fun. No, instead of having fun, you have to break the flow for whatever reason pops up in your little psycho head.

Honestly, if anything I'd advise you work on yourself and set this girl free. You are not at all capable of dating right now.
 

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Jariel said:
It can work, but there are no guarantees. I did try this pre-emptive rejection on a girl before and it worked like magic, but then other times I've tried it I ended up getting nowhere. Once you start getting into these mind games, it's a downward spiral.

The question I have to ask is why do you feel you need to flake if she agreed to come round? If she's up for it, then go with it and enjoy your time. Just play it a bit cooler in future.
Such clear insight I want to rep every post you write! Thank you. This is what we are all here for - anothers perpective
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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if we hate women who play games, why bother stooping to the same level to 'artificially raise value'. We are better than this. If you set something up, follow through and own your responsibility. Being a women isn't the answer.
 

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for a person who is aware of their own neediness as an obstacle:

neediness results from allowing your emotions to override your logic

or more correctly, taking action detrimental to your goals because of neediness is caused by allowing your emotions to override your logic

we like to say men are logical and women are emotional. its not entirely true - we have emotions as well. you either control them, or they control you
 

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Aaron B said:
for a person who is aware of their own neediness as an obstacle:

neediness results from allowing your emotions to override your logic

or more correctly, taking action detrimental to your goals because of neediness is caused by allowing your emotions to override your logic

we like to say men are logical and women are emotional. its not entirely true - we have emotions as well. you either control them, or they control you
Yeah that's very good. Next time you are eager to see her ask yourself why you wanna see her at the first place.Sometimes it is addiction to being around a certain person because of the dopamine surge or whatever chemicals make you tick. Be aware of that too. It's only great when the other person is into you at about the same level, even than caution is needed.
 

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synergy1 said:
if we hate women who play games, why bother stooping to the same level to 'artificially raise value'. We are better than this. If you set something up, follow through and own your responsibility. Being a women isn't the answer.
Girl-ila Warfare.
 

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It can be used effectively at times. A good way to test interest level too. If she wants to see you again after flaking then you know you got her.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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