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Can we drop this false myth that women are constantly f*****

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Is like mining...you have to go throught the dirt till you get to the gold.

Rarity is valuable.

But, you already knew that, right?
 

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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7anotz/your_woman_likely_has_strange_cock_in_her/

Like this is a prime example I’m talking about. Yes, there are women that sleep around just like there’s men but to pretty much assume every woman is constantly having daily sex is ludacris. In addition, these dudes got cheated on never tell the full story because they want to be the victim in their own story not the villain.
Women can get sex with a guy almost anytime they want, but they can't get sex with the right guy anytime the want, that's for sure. You can name it what the "right" guy means in this case, but let us say it is a guy with a mixture of good qualities: has got a career and passion for it, is groomed OK, is healthy and is sexy/attractive/DJ. These are the types of guys women cannot get whenever they want.

And I so much liked it how @deesade put it: they live in fake abundance cause it;s not abundance when you have 100 guys hitting you up and 90 of them disqualify directly cause you don't even hit them back. It's like having options, but the kind you wouldn't choose. That is why ***** is powerful, but not as powerful as most men think and if they could wrap their head around this, their woman would be kept much more in line.
 

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That's the problem with the internet. You find some good stuff on it, but you have to wade through some much negativity.....a lot you have to take with a grain of salt. As alluded to in your post - yes, that guy has probably been cheated on, rejected, dumped, had his ego smashed into pieces more than one time....as such he thinks the absolute worst(and about women). Now it's true women can pretty much have sex on demand, they just have to leave the house really, but most don't actually have a strange **** in their mouth at all times lol. They are,however, looking for the right man and if you are the right guy, it will be easy to put your **** into her mouth. This is why you guys need to stop focusing on women and instead focus on yourselves. Way too much emphasis on other people (women) instead of yourself, which is from where all your problems originate and conquering them will bring you the success you're looking for. Even without realizing it many men put women on the pedestal by thinking about what they might be doing or what they are like...who cares. The women you see walking the streets - you don't know them and you go in there with all these preconceived notions....that could be the furthest thing from the truth! but you swallow this crap hook line and sinker, it radiates from your core- you might be fearful or even angry because of things you read and you'll stink to her. Some of the extreme examples you see on the internet and even on this site....do you really think they are having pleasant interactions with the opposite sex? If they are even getting women of what quality do you really expect them to be, when at their core they hate them? They would have to be of the absolute bottom of the barrel as any proper woman would be repelled. They might've otherwise had a shot if they weren't like that- they ****ed themselves.
 

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Women can get sex with a guy almost anytime they want, but they can't get sex with the right guy anytime the want, that's for sure. You can name it what the "right" guy means in this case, but let us say it is a guy with a mixture of good qualities: has got a career and passion for it, is groomed OK, is healthy and is sexy/attractive/DJ. These are the types of guys women cannot get whenever they want.

And I so much liked it how @deesade put it: they live in fake abundance cause it;s not abundance when you have 100 guys hitting you up and 90 of them disqualify directly cause you don't even hit them back. It's like having options, but the kind you wouldn't choose. That is why ***** is powerful, but not as powerful as most men think and if they could wrap their head around this, their woman would be kept much more in line.
This is precisely why, I have no competition.

Progress, move forward, change or die.
 

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For whatever reason, that link wouldn't load on my phone. But i strongly agree with the sentiment.

One thing that I've found extremely useful in keeping frame is the realization that women can't get sex whenever they want.

When a woman has connected to me, and upon not taking on an exclusivity agreement, women find it extremely difficult to pull away and sleep with anyone else.

This is because a woman's game is based on disqualifying men from sex and intimacy (looking for reasons not to fvck). Whilst men qualify for it. This actually gives us hand in a relationship that a lot of guys don't capitalize on.

When a woman starts dating others, or bringing up orbiters, call their bluff. Nothing happens usually.

Women seem to exist in self-imposed scarcity, with loads of options that they don't really want and don't turn them on or excite them. Kind of like being a man surrounded by fat women wanting to take you out.
That's why when you give good sex... they stick to you... LTR or not

Girls have all the options in the world... but I bet they crossed out 90% of the time by these.

So they have the same issues as guys? They can't find a good guy? :p

When you think about it Sex is easy for both gender... what's hard is the bounding or what you call: the after-first sex period
 

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I’ve been saying this on this forum for years.

As @deesade says, maybe they have orbiters but nothing happens and @lizardking82 attractive women can get sex anytime, but with the men they want? Hardly.

Why? Because women aren’t wired sexually the same way we are.

As I often say, there are three stages (maybe more), that us men understand women.

Stage 1) Women don’t love sex as much as men. Stage 2) women do love sex as much as men and in the same way we do. And stage 3) women love sex, but in a different way to men.

It’s not an excuse but this is why many women are “cold” when you cold approach them. 90% of their exchanges with men is with the men they don’t want...so when they first see us, they automatically put us in the 90% before we’ve even opened our mouths (not all time of course).

In my experience, women need to be stimulated...and it’s much more than just physically.
 

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I’ve been saying this on this forum for years.

As @deesade says, maybe they have orbiters but nothing happens and @lizardking82 attractive women can get sex anytime, but with the men they want? Hardly.

Why? Because women aren’t wired sexually the same way we are.

As I often say, there are three stages (maybe more), that us men understand women.

Stage 1) Women don’t love sex as much as men. Stage 2) women do love sex as much as men and in the same way we do. And stage 3) women love sex, but in a different way to men.

It’s not an excuse but this is why many women are “cold” when you cold approach them. 90% of their exchanges with men is with the men they don’t want...so when they first see us, they automatically put us in the 90% before we’ve even opened our mouths (not all time of course).

In my experience, women need to be stimulated...and it’s much more than just physically.
Biologically speaking, we as men get turned on by fertility signs such as boobs, ass, cheeks, eyes, scent and nowadays, personal fetishes. On the other hand, women get turned on by status, influence, charisma, leadership, authority, dominance. I know that sex seems physical and the same to both people when having it, but it's not.

Even the way we experience sex is totally different. As I have said in anothet thread some time ago, the male orgasm is NECESSARY for sex to happen. On the other hand, the woman's moans are there just to fire up the man and make him feel the "damage he is inflicting", thus making him *** quicker and consequently, securing the sperm and the heir. It is proven biologically that women who feel dominated by the aura of a man whose child they want to have, *** almost at the same time he cums and that because her vagina muscles tighten up in a certain way that makes it easier for her to collect the sperm and let it go to the eggs. Her orgasm is not necessary, but complementary and helping to the whole supposed proces of getting pregnant

That;s why always remember, if a woman cums several times and you can feel her juices or if she comes about a minute or less right after you do, she's probably just head and heals into you. If she comes just once and a couple of minutes before you do, get out of there, my men, she is not the one for you.

P. S - Do not get out of there with this happening just once if you can feel with your gut she's enjoying it. Maybe she's just not open enough to you yet and that is why she doesn't feel you fully, but if it keeps on happening...meh.
 

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Islam is a very intelligent religion. The way they handle their wives is the right way to keep the society of women in check.
 
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Islam is a very intelligent religion. The way they handle their wives is the right way to keep the society of women in check.
Sure. If you think men put women on pedestals here, move to Saudi Arabia and see men fork out thousands of dollars to a bride'a father and women write up marriage contracts of what they expect before they even get married.

I went to school with Saudi women here in Toronto. If you think the average women is picky, think again.

In fact the Muslim women that I have worked with or gone to school with (a lot), were certainly not the kind of women I would want to cross. From what I could see they have no problems ganging up on their men when they piss them off. It's one thing to have one woman yelling at you but to have her sisters and mother joining her?

It just seems like they handle their wives on paper but I don't think they are in any better situation than most of the guys here. Oh and they are shamed by their families for bad behaviour like spinning plates and are pressured to get married and have children. My husband's work friend was caught having a relationship with another Muslim girl. The families forced them to get married. He was 22.

Another Muslim guy was kicked out of his family's house when he was caught at a frat party in bed with a white girl.

Believe me, it's not all smooth sailing for the Muslim men.
 

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There are just too many men saying the same sh*t about the market for it not to be true.

If it was just me.. or a few of my friends I would say.. sure maybe I'm the problem. There must be lots of great women out there and lots of men in HAPPY relationships. But this is just not the case. Every guy I meet has had sh*t experiences with women that out number their positive ones. Every single one. That's a lot of sh*tty women lol.

When is the last time you met a guy over age 20 who was "living the dream" when it comes to relationships with women? Most guys will express some degree of mistrust, disappointment, or frustration with women. What does that tell you?

The market is sh*t. Its not what I WANT to believe. It is simply the truth.
 

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For whatever reason, that link wouldn't load on my phone. But i strongly agree with the sentiment.

One thing that I've found extremely useful in keeping frame is the realization that women can't get sex whenever they want.

When a woman has connected to me, and upon not taking on an exclusivity agreement, women find it extremely difficult to pull away and sleep with anyone else.

This is because a woman's game is based on disqualifying men from sex and intimacy (looking for reasons not to fvck). Whilst men qualify for it. This actually gives us hand in a relationship that a lot of guys don't capitalize on.

When a woman starts dating others, or bringing up orbiters, call their bluff. Nothing happens usually.

Women seem to exist in self-imposed scarcity, with loads of options that they don't really want and don't turn them on or excite them. Kind of like being a man surrounded by fat women wanting to take you out.
This post by @deesade is another good example of the major divide on the forum......between one side of guys believing the LTR market is complete TRASH and one side believing that if you become some sort of TOP TIER guy then you can mitigate risks/nuisances to find Unicorns in the LTR market.

You see the guys who believe in the TOP TIER guy theory, believe that if they bring some sort of characteristic, quality, or value to the table......the woman in particular will MORPH into some caricature of a traditional, non-liberated woman from 1943. These characteristics, qualities, etc., could include any or multiple of the following: having really great looks, really great social skills, really good internal/external game, being really GOOD in bed (like @deesade just said), having a lot of power/social proof (like @BeExcellent promotes), etc.

They believe that if a guy just IMPROVES himself within the particular area(s), then all of his LTR issues, challenges, etc. will vanish and the woman will morph back into a non-liberated woman that is somehow LOCKED into this pseudo "prison" where only the guy has the KEY to her freedom.

This is bullshyt. Complete bullshyt.

Women are liberated. Feminism happened. Gynocentrism is real. There is no going back to 1943. There's nothing you can do/say, there's no way you can fvck her, there's no amount of NET WORTH you can have, there's no amount of FAME/POPULARITY you can have, there's no amount of social power you can have, there's no amount of good looks you can have......to MORPH a woman of today's market BACK into a woman of the 1943 market.

Women do not need men anymore, every man is nothing but a form of convenience and entertainment for a woman today. She can leave you at any time, for any reason, or no reason. Every woman is a LEASE agreement today and the moment you guys realize that......the moment you will drop this notion that you have any control whatsoever over keeping a woman "in line".

But notwithstanding
, this does not mean you don't continue to improve yourself. Improving yourself is going to give you the direct benefits from the activity (for example, working out makes you more healthy with more life energy/focus) but it will also benefit you "women wise" in the SHORT TERM DATING relationship market. Today, when it comes to women, your only focus should be on succeeding in the Short Term Dating market, as that's the ONLY thing you can control when it comes to women. You have no control, whatsoever, over her being an LTR partner......that is something that is completely and utterly dictated by the woman's own "traditional" (1943) personal values, morals, and character choices which are missing in 90% plus of women today due to the liberation/feminism/gynocentrism process.
 

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Women seem to exist in self-imposed scarcity, with loads of options that they don't really want and don't turn them on or excite them. Kind of like being a man surrounded by fat women wanting to take you out.
This is very true. Women ARE NOT F*UCKING all their orbiters. They are orbiters for a reason. Good fat chick analogy in the above post. I think some on SS are over-paranoid and think every chick is banging 4-5 men at a time. Not true. Wake up. Life is not a porno flick (too bad...).

I've said this before: Women are programmed deep in their DNA roots to seek ONE usually alpha-like male for mating. Go watch a heard of elk or pack of wolves, whatever. It's the same with females of the human species too.

If you were surrounded by HB 3's-4's but they were offering to take you to NFL games, UFC fights, and the World Series and buy you your favorite player's jersey and whatever you wanted to eat, would you turn it down? F*uck no. This is what hot chicks face and deal with. Maybe once in a while you'd throw the HB4 a bone (literally) so that's what the HB9 does while she waits for Alpha Adam or DJ Donald.

They're NOT screwing half the city as many here think.
 

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Women do not need men anymore, every man is nothing but a form of convenience and entertainment for a woman today. She can leave you at any time, for any reason, or no reason. Every woman is a LEASE agreement today and the moment you guys realize that......the moment you will drop this notion that you have any control whatsoever over keeping a woman "in line".
Disagree. Unless we're talking about the under-25 crowd where the selection is plentiful for both sexes. Women KNOW a good, strong MAN (not "boy") is HARD to find. So when she finds one and dates or marries him, she's not going to risk it by f*ucking around or acting like a perma-b*itch. Certainly there are exceptions but an Alpha or DJ would never compromise their standards to LTR or marry this type of woman anyway so the point is moot.

Let me expound:

BOY
-Lives at home or has roommates
-Works a few jobs or one low-paying job
-Has a "boss"
-Little or no money
-No property
-Few goals, aspirations
-Focused on BS; video games, porn, etc.
-No workout regimen
-Soft and weak
-No self improvement plan
-Blames others for failures
-Too focused on other's opinions of self.

MAN
-Has his own place, no roommates
-Owns his own business or has a leadership position
-He is largely his own "boss"
-Saves money, has securities and holdings
-Has lofty goals; personal and professional
-No time for time-wasting, banal crap
-Regular at the gym, plays sports
-Knows how to physically fight
-Regularly does a mind workout (Tony Robbins, Brian Tracy, Corey Wayne, etc.)
-Man's up on all failures as it's part of the success equation
-Couldn't give a s*hit what other people think

Now, how many women are going to screw around on the MAN? Very few sane ones. Strong men are NOT garbage to women. It's your beta mindset that tells you that.

Best,

Dash
 

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Yes they aren't fvcking everyone but even the fat ones have more abundance than the most alpha males on this site. Which is why they are less desperate. If you aren't desperate you'll be much more confident in yourself and have much more options.
 

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Yes they aren't fvcking everyone but even the fat ones have more abundance than the most alpha males on this site. Which is why they are less desperate. If you aren't desperate you'll be much more confident in yourself and have much more options.
And that is how it should be, we don't expect any guy here or anywhere to have more abundance than a chick, that's not very natural. It's much easier to be born fertile and beautiful than it is to become succesful. And with all the fetishes going on today and with all the desperation in a lot of men, they're ready to bang a bag of squirrels, let alone a fat woman.
 
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