"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Can subtly letting know a girl about your hobbies help raise her IL?

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Or it doesn't really have any effect in the long run?

For example, when on a date with a girl, I was thinking of inviting her to come cavern exploring with me on a specific date that I'm going with some buddies of mine (invinting her to tag along), although I know she got school so she will for sure refuse. I'm basically doing that to let her know of some hobbies of mine

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Shivastorm_88 said:
Or it doesn't really have any effect in the long run?

For example, when on a date with a girl, I was thinking of inviting her to come cavern exploring with me on a specific date that I'm going with some buddies of mine (invinting her to tag along), although I know she got school so she will for sure refuse. I'm basically doing that to let her know of some hobbies of mine

Good or meh ?
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Girls don't care about stupid things like cavern exploring. The only things that will interest them are superficial things like money, a high paying job, a cool job, being famous, knowing a celebrity, etc.
 
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Shivastorm, stick with your plan, it's actually quite smooth brother. It says all the right things about you in a way that's not boastful.

First you're communicating that you're masculine and adventurous, that never goes out of style. Girls in my country are going nuts at the moment for a survivalist called Bear Gryls, and I have to admit I can't help but like the guy. We're hardwired to respect survival skills, men and women alike.

Second you're creating some scarcity value for yourself in her eyes. I love that you're dropping this knowing full well she can't accept, very well played.
 
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Speculator E said:
Girls don't care about stupid things like cavern exploring. The only things that will interest them are superficial things like money, a high paying job, a cool job, being famous, knowing a celebrity, etc.
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Im gona agree with this.

Something like cavern exploring is good to bring up if it is a common interest. But it's not going to make her attracted to you. Having said that, adrenaline junkies get plentiful vagina, so it is dependant on your hobby.
 
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Wilko said:
Girls in my country are going nuts at the moment for a survivalist called Bear Gryls, and I have to admit I can't help but like the guy.
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I read his bio on Wikipedia. WOW, what a man!



OT: as I read about what you're going to do I was thinking that it's an interesting thing you have going on.
What can you lose by telling the girl? Worst case scenario is that the refuses and you'll have something to talk about the next time you see her.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Girls don't care about stupid things like cavern exploring. The only things that will interest them are superficial things like money, a high paying job, a cool job, being famous, knowing a celebrity, etc.
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Actually, I know several women who are heavily interested in exploring caves. Some of them are a lot better than some of the guys at it (crawling through tight spaces, repelling down rock faces, and such). This idea that women can't think past what pair of shoes they want to wear is simply false.

OP, I think if you can get her to go with you she might well be interested. And it sets you up in the experienced leader position too.
 
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If this girl has high-enough IL, she'll go along with it. Remember, if she digs, she'll follow. You go out and have fun doing what you like. She's the one who will come along for the ride (or crawl, hike, etc.)
 
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