"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Can subtly letting know a girl about your hobbies help raise her IL?

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Or it doesn't really have any effect in the long run?

For example, when on a date with a girl, I was thinking of inviting her to come cavern exploring with me on a specific date that I'm going with some buddies of mine (invinting her to tag along), although I know she got school so she will for sure refuse. I'm basically doing that to let her know of some hobbies of mine

Good or meh ?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Shivastorm_88 said:
Or it doesn't really have any effect in the long run?

For example, when on a date with a girl, I was thinking of inviting her to come cavern exploring with me on a specific date that I'm going with some buddies of mine (invinting her to tag along), although I know she got school so she will for sure refuse. I'm basically doing that to let her know of some hobbies of mine

Good or meh ?
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Girls don't care about stupid things like cavern exploring. The only things that will interest them are superficial things like money, a high paying job, a cool job, being famous, knowing a celebrity, etc.
 
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Shivastorm, stick with your plan, it's actually quite smooth brother. It says all the right things about you in a way that's not boastful.

First you're communicating that you're masculine and adventurous, that never goes out of style. Girls in my country are going nuts at the moment for a survivalist called Bear Gryls, and I have to admit I can't help but like the guy. We're hardwired to respect survival skills, men and women alike.

Second you're creating some scarcity value for yourself in her eyes. I love that you're dropping this knowing full well she can't accept, very well played.
 
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Speculator E said:
Girls don't care about stupid things like cavern exploring. The only things that will interest them are superficial things like money, a high paying job, a cool job, being famous, knowing a celebrity, etc.
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Im gona agree with this.

Something like cavern exploring is good to bring up if it is a common interest. But it's not going to make her attracted to you. Having said that, adrenaline junkies get plentiful vagina, so it is dependant on your hobby.
 
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Wilko said:
Girls in my country are going nuts at the moment for a survivalist called Bear Gryls, and I have to admit I can't help but like the guy.
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I read his bio on Wikipedia. WOW, what a man!



OT: as I read about what you're going to do I was thinking that it's an interesting thing you have going on.
What can you lose by telling the girl? Worst case scenario is that the refuses and you'll have something to talk about the next time you see her.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Girls don't care about stupid things like cavern exploring. The only things that will interest them are superficial things like money, a high paying job, a cool job, being famous, knowing a celebrity, etc.
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Actually, I know several women who are heavily interested in exploring caves. Some of them are a lot better than some of the guys at it (crawling through tight spaces, repelling down rock faces, and such). This idea that women can't think past what pair of shoes they want to wear is simply false.

OP, I think if you can get her to go with you she might well be interested. And it sets you up in the experienced leader position too.
 
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If this girl has high-enough IL, she'll go along with it. Remember, if she digs, she'll follow. You go out and have fun doing what you like. She's the one who will come along for the ride (or crawl, hike, etc.)
 
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