"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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can someone tell me where i went wrong here...(text convo)

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Actually thought i had already commented in this thread but clearly forgot to save it

Anyway right yea the first text is good its light hearted and allows her to remember who you are from what you where talking about

you should of flipped the conversation to a date almost as soon as she replied to that first text

Instead you decided to start trying to validate yourself to her by spinning off a load of random carp trying to be funny but in all honesty doesn’t make sense because you can’t express emotion through texts (sorry to be harsh)

I used to spend hours constructing complex texts which where paragraphs long trying to build a rapport with a woman

I was pis*ing in the wind

Short to the point and witty texts will get you the results you want
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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But isn't it true that if u always point at the date right away u might scare off the ones that have IL but not as high as others? Not every girl wants to hook up right away. Some need a little persuading...

What if I got a number from a girl which isn't convinced about my potential (could even be because of her thinking i'm a player or not the type she usually is attracted to) but she is curious about my move next? Making her laugh by using good text can be a strong move right?
 

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Hmmm... there was a little bit too much will nilly humor going on in there. It's good to throw a couple of funny jabs in there, but I just use text to get important messages across "Here's the address" "stuck in traffic", etc.. I save all the funny stuff and conversation pieces for actual one on one conversation.
 

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Chaan said:
But isn't it true that if u always point at the date right away u might scare off the ones that have IL but not as high as others? Not every girl wants to hook up right away. Some need a little persuading... ?
Theres a really fine line between being funny and trying too hard

Unless you know what you’re doing i would avoid “trying” to be funny in texts

Don’t get me wrong If the opportunity presents itself in the text convo by all means take it



Chaan said:
What if I got a number from a girl which isn't convinced about my potential (could even be because of her thinking i'm a player or not the type she usually is attracted to) but she is curious about my move next? Making her laugh by using good text can be a strong move right?

Lol if she isn’t convinced about your potential why would she be curious on your next move ?

Trust me bro most girls these days have different guys hitting them up 20 times a day if you haven’t done enough to “convince” her about your potential in the initial interaction you aren’t going to be able to do it via text
 

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Dude you're trying way too hard, I cringed reading this. Your texts should be simple, short, and direct. You don't want to give off the vibe that you spent 20 minutes thinking of a clever joke to say or a witty response. Just get to the fuc*ing point and be friendly but serious.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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