"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Can someone explain this to me?

Prepostereax

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OP, You are operating under a fallacy that seems to be a product of OLD and this insta generation

so you think 5’6” scrawny, baldy Strauss was dating.. down?
Like, he could’ve done better for himself ….?
Women are supposed to bring more beauty to the table
{No I wouldn't look twice at her, at least not based on those pics alone, but she's probably sexier irl which is what counts}
Men bring leadership to the table.

This whole concept of looksmaxxing is ghey, that men have to be as pretty as the woman they're dating
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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BillyPilgrim

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Glad I'm not the only one that noticed. For certain reasons, many famous people are like that worldwide.





The woman looks masculine to me. I'm just saying one word. Inversion.

By the way, completely unrelated, may I ask what that devil-looking profile picture you currently use means? Just curious.
The chin on that chick is kinda suspicious. Long and square.
 

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Glad I'm not the only one that noticed. For certain reasons, many famous people are like that worldwide.

The woman looks masculine to me. I'm just saying one word. Inversion.

By the way, completely unrelated, may I ask what that devil-looking profile picture you currently use means? Just curious.
yeah she has a bit of a chin.
Ime chicks with a solid chin like that = high sex drive. That’s just a small sample size correlation tho, ime .

Profile pic =‘ El Diablo ‘the devil,
Yknow, the horny devil..
or sexually driven ,cheeky male .. like me :)

afaik she dumped Strauss for millionaire pop star Robbie Williams , I’m sure he had his choice of hot women, and that she’s pretty hot IRL.

There were rumours about him tho .. so not concrete proof that one. Lol

But seriously… Robbie Williams? cmon.
 
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OP, You are operating under a fallacy that seems to be a product of OLD and this insta generation


Women are supposed to bring more beauty to the table
{No I wouldn't look twice at her, at least not based on those pics alone, but she's probably sexier irl which is what counts}
Men bring leadership to the table.

This whole concept of looksmaxxing is ghey, that men have to be as pretty as the woman they're dating
well, this is what we are raised to believe.
But, when we look around IRL it’s not really what we see. Especially in the younger bracket. Hot women tend to pair with Hot men ( handsome and tall) as a general rule.

whats a womans romantic ideal ?

“tall dark and handsome “!

just read back up through the thread for the explanation of why Strauss was with this chick. It was a combination of many factors. His Hollywood connections / Music scene connections mainly, his ‘ social circle game’ not his ‘leadership’ per se.


women bring their beauty to the table with leaders sure , but moreso with leaders who also happen to have lots of money.
thats a trade situation. Beauty for Money/Status.

Basic looksmaxxing is a very good idea, but it’s limited in application to gym and fashion and grooming imo.( Including Hair transplant )

There is no real effective application to face and height .
LM Doesn’t move the needle there afaics.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Some say she used him for his connections in the music biz/ Showbiz ..him being a rock writer etc.
he hadn’t made real money from grifting PUA at that point when he met her afaik, and wasn’t yet famous at that point either
He was a writer for Rolling Stone, wasn't he? That probably brought some status, especially in those days, when being a rock or pop star was a much bigger deal than it is now. At the very least, it was an exotic job where you got to rub elbows with famous people.
 

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Maybe he happens to be her type and everyone's attracted to different things.
yeah there is a bit of that too.
he’s a music journalist that knows musicians , she’s in a band etc probably why it lasted 2 years.
Like @zekko said above tho. The main factor is he’s also got that status and connections. He had high status is my takeaway. Not just the average Joe music fan/journo. His high status compensated for his Looks.
So she was trading her looks for his status.


That’s famous guitarist Dave Navarro and playboy bunny Carmen Electra below.

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Following on form my other thread about getting HOTTER women with any kind of ‘Game’.

so what was the real story w Strauss and this chick Lisa Leveridge from the book…?

Some say she used him for his connections in the music biz/ Showbiz ..him being a rock writer etc.

he hadn’t made real money from grifting PUA at that point when he met her afaik, and wasn’t yet famous at that point either.

He’s 5’6” tall and she’s 6’ tall and has looks.
And they were together 2 years or something.

Then she went on to date Robbie Williams after him afaik.

So did he pay her or what lol.
Social Status/Social Circle I guess?
Maybe he was dealing cocaine on the downlow(?) lol.
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Who gives a fuk?

Mind your own business.

That's the problem, you guys worry too much about shiit that doesn't have anything to do with you.

Gossip and drama queenz.
 

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Who gives a fuk?

Mind your own business.

That's the problem, you guys worry too much about shiit that doesn't have anything to do with you.

Gossip and drama queenz.
he wrote the most famous book on getting ‘Game’ with women dude.
Yknow, that thing.. the whole forum runs on discussing. :rolleyes: His actual results might be relevant.
 
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he wrote the most famous book on getting ‘Game’ with women dude.
Yknow, that thing.. the whole forum runs on discussing. :rolleyes: His actual results might be relevant.
Buy his book then.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It was pretty much underground at the time compared to now. Completely different times now. I don't judge tactics I have not spent some time trying to learn.
 
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I already did. Back in 2005 :rofl: now I am here.. for my sins. :cry:
It was really a great book. Even Rules of the Game was a pretty good read and the 30 day challenge do a lot of guys on here a lot of justice. It teaches guys how to be more social with everyone under the guise of trying to pickup women.
 

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It was really a great book. Even Rules of the Game was a pretty good read and the 30 day challenge do a lot of guys on here a lot of justice. It teaches guys how to be more social with everyone under the guise of trying to pickup women.
for sure . I still rate it.
It’s probably the most comprehensive A to Z account of a guy transforming himself in order to get laid.
He’s a one of the rare examples in the community of a sub5 looking guy going from zero-to-hero.
and learning how to pickup chicks ..

I think most of the book is an honest account albeit the ratings of the girls probably inflated.
I liked that chapter in Rules Of The Game where he picks up the old lady in his apartment block :rofl:Pretty honest.. and very funny :rofl:
 
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