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Can men and women be just friends?

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Hey. My gf likes to talk to and have other males as friends. She say that they are just friends and tells me when I question her about it that i am being insecure. She does not keep anything from me and will tell me when shes talked to them or seen them, so shes not going behind my back or anything.

She says that she likes males as friends over females as they tend not to be two faced and b1tchy. She says that when she was growin up she was a bit of a tom boy and likes having males has friends. She is also the only girl out of her siblings and grew up with three brothers. she therefore somewhat enjoys typically male orientated sports and past times such as soccer, boxing, poker and video games etc.

She has about 4 or 5 male friends who she speaks to and sometimes sees. Two of these she sees more regularly. (at least once a week) The one lives accross the road from her and they have therefore grown up together living just accross the road, she used to go out with this guy back in the day years ago. The other is a friend from school who she sms txts and sees around once a week to go for a drive in his car and go to street races etc.

I try not to make to big a deal about it as i do not wanna come accross as insecure. But deep down i do get a little jelous and insecure knowing that she is spending time with other guys, which only seems a little natural.

I do not wanna go overboard on this and stop her seeing these guys or show that i am too bothered after all she has known and had friendships with these guys years before i started seeing her. i have only been with her about 7 months.

However i am aware of what these guys are probably after and tell her this. I bet they think about sleeping with her and would if she gave them the chance. I believe that men will allways want more, but women can be just friends. I only have to look back at my afc days when i would try and be friends with girls in the hope that one day it would develop into something more.

Whats your opinion on this guys, it probably been discussed before but i could not find it when i did a search.
 

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g188 said:
Hey. My gf likes to talk to and have other males as friends. She say that they are just friends and tells me when I question her about it that i am being insecure. She does not keep anything from me and will tell me when shes talked to them or seen them, so shes not going behind my back or anything.

She says that she likes males as friends over females as they tend not to be two faced and b1tchy. She says that when she was growin up she was a bit of a tom boy and likes having males has friends. She is also the only girl out of her siblings and grew up with three brothers. she therefore somewhat enjoys typically male orientated sports and past times such as soccer, boxing, poker and video games etc.

She has about 4 or 5 male friends who she speaks to and sometimes sees. Two of these she sees more regularly. (at least once a week) The one lives accross the road from her and they have therefore grown up together living just accross the road, she used to go out with this guy back in the day years ago. The other is a friend from school who she sms txts and sees around once a week to go for a drive in his car and go to street races etc.

I try not to make to big a deal about it as i do not wanna come accross as insecure. But deep down i do get a little jelous and insecure knowing that she is spending time with other guys, which only seems a little natural.

I do not wanna go overboard on this and stop her seeing these guys or show that i am too bothered after all she has known and had friendships with these guys years before i started seeing her. i have only been with her about 7 months.

However i am aware of what these guys are probably after and tell her this. I bet they think about sleeping with her and would if she gave them the chance. I believe that men will allways want more, but women can be just friends. I only have to look back at my afc days when i would try and be friends with girls in the hope that one day it would develop into something more.

Whats your opinion on this guys, it probably been discussed before but i could not find it when i did a search.
Short Answer: NO

Long Answer: Guys and Girls could be friends but thats how it starts because IMO, The guy will try and make an advance sooner or later on her. You think for a second that another guy is going to care what her b/f thinks? If your girlfriend is cute then that's even worse.
 

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It's cheesy and probably overused, but here's a quote from When Harry Meet Sally.

Harry Burns: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally Albright: Why not?
Harry Burns: What I'm saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form - is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally Albright: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: You only think you do.
Sally Albright: You say I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry Burns: No, what I'm saying is they all WANT to have sex with you.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: How do you know?
Harry Burns: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally Albright: So, you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry Burns: No. You pretty much want to nail 'em too.
Sally Albright: What if THEY don't want to have sex with YOU?
Harry Burns: Doesn't matter because the sex thing is already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of the story.
 

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I think men and women can be friends. One circumstance is if the woman isn't attracted to the guy at all or they've known each other for years and only been friends.

There are friendships out there that don't always escalate into something more.
 

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Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

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What do you mean Unsure? that eventually it will be more then just friends?
 

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g188 said:
Hey. My gf likes to talk to and have other males as friends. She say that they are just friends and tells me when I question her about it that i am being insecure. She does not keep anything from me and will tell me when shes talked to them or seen them, so shes not going behind my back or anything.

Whats your opinion on this guys, it probably been discussed before but i could not find it when i did a search.
If she knows it bugs you, why does she keep doing it?
 

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What I want to know is why do you guys get into relationships with women that do not have the same idea as you of what a relationship should be about?

You don't like her being friends with other guys so you shouldn't be in a relationship with her.

Period.

You should instead be with a girl who has all girls as her friends base which most normal and decent women have because normal and decent women know that having guy friends is bullsh!t as the guys just wanna get in their pants.

Normal and decent women want genuine friends that actually want to be their friends which other women want to be to them.

Only women that are on the hunt for c0ck keep around a stable of guy friends that aren't really friends but potential fvck buddies/new boyfriends or as Chris Rock would call them "the d!ck in a glass jar" just waiting to be broken out incase of an emergency.
 

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women and men can be "just friends" it happens all of the time. Even tho the dude may want to fvck doesn't necessarily mean the chick does. As guys, we'd bang any attractive, non std infested woman in this world. Doesn't mean it always happens
 

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KontrollerX said:
What I want to know is why do you guys get into relationships with women that do not have the same idea as you of what a relationship should be about?

You don't like her being friends with other guys so you shouldn't be in a relationship with her.

Period.

You should instead be with a girl who has all girls as her friends base which most normal and decent women have because normal and decent women know that having guy friends is bullsh!t as the guys just wanna get in their pants.

Normal and decent women want genuine friends that actually want to be their friends which other women want to be to them.

Only women that are on the hunt for c0ck keep around a stable of guy friends that aren't really friends but potential fvck buddies/new boyfriends or as Chris Rock would call them "the d!ck in a glass jar" just waiting to be broken out incase of an emergency.
I agree with this cause most of the time it is true. But, friends can just be friends and thats what it is.
 

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Of course they can - but not if one of them is attracted to the other. I think alot of people here assume that the guy will ALWAYS be attracted to the girl unless she's f'ing hideous. I'm not inclined to think so; a girl can be perfectly good-looking in a general way but if she's not your type than it's not an issue.
 

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It isn't likely. 99% a men and a women keep being friends for a while, one of the two wants to start ****ing the other.
 

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Of course. Infact, why wouldn't they be able to be? Every relationship between a man and a woman isn't sexual. And if you notice that the girl just has a really cool vibe, you'll probably even be talking to her long after you f*ck her.
 

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Yeah men and women can be friends.

So long as one of them is ugly as sin.

Other than that nope you will always view the other person as a potential fvck buddy.
 

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I think that it's only possible if there's mutual disinterest in the sex department. If one wants more than the other, and let's them know it, it will get ugly.

One of my good friends is a chick that I used to work with. We're pretty good friends and I think it will stay that way; we're not into each other. She's like 20 years older than me but still likes to party like a 25 year old, so we get along great. We've known each other about 3 years so far.
 

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KontrollerX said:
Yeah men and women can be friends.

So long as one of them is ugly as sin.

Other than that nope you will always view the other person as a potential fvck buddy.
Yeah, but what's after you f*ck the girl? Exactly. Now if you just picked her up to f*ck her it'll probably end there. But if you have a good vibe with her, your interest in her will go beyond sex. You can't just be friends with hot girls? That's bull. The only way you're always going to view every hot woman as a potential f*ck is if your desperate or just plain horny.
 

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of course. Thats how u start first
 

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