"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Can girls be attracted to several guys at once?

GoinDeep

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Sounds like a dumb question, just trying to get some honest opinions. I was talking to a female friend of mine and told her about a girl I was interested in.

I said "she seems to like me but she appeares to be attracted to this other guy at the gym."

My friend says "Is she the only girl your interested in?"

Me: "No, you know there are several girls I'm interested in!"

Her: "What makes you think she is any different?"

I thought this was a good point. No sense getting dicouraged if she is flirting with someone else. Just play by the DJ rules and see if she comes your way.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Exactly!

Gipper
 

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Any mention of another guy to you is a sign of total disinterest.
 

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Trickynick, Are you saying I should write her off because she mentioned another guy?

I think her comment was "was soandso(guy from the gym) at the party you were just at?

Me: "yeah, we had a couple beers together"

Her: "Call him bedroom eyes next time you see him at the gym, its an inside joke"

Me: I laugh it off and say "I dont think calling any guy at the gym bedroom eyes would be very good for my reputation"

Thats all that was said of the other guy. Could she possibly be trying to make me jealous? or just starting conversation?
 

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Women can be attracted to a hundred guys at once, just like you are attracted to multiple females. But they would have to be stupid to pass up an opportunity to date a guy they ARE interested in, in hopes that another guy they are also interested in asks them out. You read Archie comics as a kid didn't you? Women play men off the other. They purposely create competition to see who will come out on top, they want to end up with the better of the two. Just make sure it's you.

A woman telling you she likes another guy doesn't mean she isn't interested in you, it could mean that she's trying to see if you'll get jealous. The way I see it, if a woman I'm NOT dating expresses interest in someone else, it's no big obstacle to overcome. But if you are ALREADY dating and this happens, ditch the broad.

Deagleclaw out

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by trickynick:
Any mention of another guy to you is a sign of total disinterest.
That's a crock, nick. Just like a DJ uses the "social proof" or letting women see he is desirable to other women, women will do the exact same thing. I've done it many times. Especially if I know the guy is interested and he isn't moving fast enough. Women do this sometimes to let the guy know he has competition and it can be a cue for the guy to make his move.
 

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Originally posted by GoinDeep:
Trickynick, Are you saying I should write her off because she mentioned another guy?

I think her comment was "was soandso(guy from the gym) at the party you were just at?

Me: "yeah, we had a couple beers together"

Her: "Call him bedroom eyes next time you see him at the gym, its an inside joke"

Me: I laugh it off and say "I dont think calling any guy at the gym bedroom eyes would be very good for my reputation"

Thats all that was said of the other guy. Could she possibly be trying to make me jealous? or just starting conversation?
Depends on tone, context, too many other things to be sure. But it's a game play for sure. The line was either a neg hit on you. Or it was supposed to get you thinking 'Hey -what did she mean by that?

Either way, looks like it worked.


From what you've said I'd be inclined to be pessimistic about her interest. Real high interest would be more direct and more obvious.

Besides, if you think about it, talking about other guys is a really weird way to show she likes you. If nothing else it tells you that she's not going to be that great at telling you stuff directly, and she'll assume that it's up to you to read her mind, and if you don't, hey - hardball - what kind of loser are you anyway?

Not a good sign for the future, I'd say.

But never mind how she feels about other guys - how do you feel about her? That's way more important than figuring out where she's coming from.

And are you following one of the DJ golden rules by making sure you always at least two (preferably a lot more) prospects going at the same time?
 

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goindeep: she screwed the guy! cool.
 

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Originally posted by trickynick:
Any mention of another guy to you is a sign of total disinterest.

I don't really agree .. Sometimes girls mention other guys to make them appear as a Challenge
I know this girl who likes me for sure and keeps mentioning guys around her because i am not interested
 

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Sounds like some of you disagree with me on this point.

I admit my comment was a little out of place because what GoinDeep originally said was that he heard of her interest in other guy(s) through a third party and not directly from the girl he was interested in.

I still believe that if a girl talks about other guys (in any favorable manner) in a conversation with you, it's a sign of disinterest or at least uncertainty.

If a girl I am interested in starts to do this, I nip it in the bud by saying things like "don't you have girlfriends to talk about this with" or "I am not the person to be discussing these things with."

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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if a girl said she liked someone else i would just say i liked someone else pretty simple get her jealous along with yourself but i don't think thats a good idea. dang that girl was hott! huh what dang it

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huh? but why?
 

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Nick...seriously...women will tell you that so and so is flirting with them, or so and so is cute, or she's thinking about accepting so and so's offer for a date EVEN if she's interested in you. If she's totally ignoring you and showing no other interest at all...she's not interested. If she does show other signs of interest, don't let mentioning other guys discourage you. Men are supposed to do the pursuing...that's what we are all raised to believe. If a girl likes a guy and he isn't "getting" her signals or isn't moving fast enough she WILL lead you to believe that she is being pursued by others to get you moving. It's like setting a firecracker off underneath your @ss, telling you to make your move.
 

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Wyldfire,

You might be right about this. But what do you think I should say when something like that comes up? Were the lines I talked about in my last post appropriate?

My worry with regard to this is that if I don't be clear on the point of not wanting to hear about other guys, then I'll be on the slippery slope that leads to becoming her consoling sap or therapist which is never good.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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girl_in_a_boy_forum said:
Yup, I'm a woman! And proud of it.

U expect to be taken seriously w/ a name like that? U sound like a little girl trying to tick off her older brother by hanging around w/ his guy friends.....


And why would anyone revive a post from 2001???
 

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GoinDeep said:
Sounds like a dumb question, just trying to get some honest opinions. I was talking to a female friend of mine and told her about a girl I was interested in.

I said "she seems to like me but she appeares to be attracted to this other guy at the gym."

My friend says "Is she the only girl your interested in?"

Me: "No, you know there are several girls I'm interested in!"

Her: "What makes you think she is any different?"

I thought this was a good point. No sense getting dicouraged if she is flirting with someone else. Just play by the DJ rules and see if she comes your way.
when you're with her, always let her know no one else is better...
 

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The girl is talking/dating with you, not your wife or a nun. If she does not know you, what reason would she have to commit to you? A date is not a promiss to forsake all others.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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