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Can anything good happen from inviting 2-4 tinder dates in one place and time?

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At least it will be less boring.

Right now my dates either look like she lets me escalate or she doesnt.

But regardless escalation its not said that she will let me have sex with her or that she wont ghost me for richer guy (it happened).


Im thinking of sheduling couple dates in one place. is there something wrong with that? note im not a player haha but i wanna do it
 

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I did that in Beijing...
one was in my room, another in the lobby...
lobby girl got all pissed off
*other girl beat her literally by 5 minutes. *bangchikabaubau
 

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Depends on how confident you are and how attracted they are
 

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You should definitely double and triple book first dates. If you don’t want to cause a scene use a location with other stuff around it
 

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So do you guys actually ask girls out that you have minimal interest in? Would you do this with a girl you were highly interested in? Do you spend time getting to know them before you go out? What has made you feel the need to stack your dates?

If I'm going to invest time on a date with a girl its going to be with one that I'm confident is going to show up. I will determine that by pre-date filtering thru messages/phone call. I usually spend a little time building attraction before I meet them. As a result I've eliminated the ones that flake on a first date.

I guess stacking dates is also a filtering tool, but I question if a quality girl would tolerate those antics knowing what was going on. I'd bet none of them would show if you told them before hand.
 

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So do you guys actually ask girls out that you have minimal interest in? Would you do this with a girl you were highly interested in? Do you spend time getting to know them before you go out? What has made you feel the need to stack your dates?

If I'm going to invest time on a date with a girl its going to be with one that I'm confident is going to show up. I will determine that by pre-date filtering thru messages/phone call. I usually spend a little time building attraction before I meet them. As a result I've eliminated the ones that flake on a first date.

I guess stacking dates is also a filtering tool, but I question if a quality girl would tolerate those antics knowing what was going on. I'd bet none of them would show if you told them before hand.
But they would remember me for the rest of their lifes + they would tell this story to their friends for the next months or years, which automatically means they would think about me
 

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i dont even know what my interest level in a girl is until shes gotten somewhere with me.. ie already fvcked her, decided i like her for more than one lay and might want to actually get to know her. interest beyond fvcking isnt even on my mind until after. thats pretty much my mentality

This is pretty much a counter punch to a saturated flakey market of flakey corn flakes and an efficient way to deal with only interested women.

It’s too useful to not have in the tool bag and the pros greatly outweigh the cons and you’ll have some reslly really interesting experiences when more than one shows up.

As far as technique and execution, I leave that to you guys.
Some guys get into this sniper mentality, without having even met or really knowing the girl.

MEN, you owe women nothing, especially those whom you are not in serious relations with. Commit the actions which best serve you.
 

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1 tinder date is enough as I never get flaked on, 2-4 would literally be 2-4 girls in one spot approaching me and me ending up with egg on my face going home and loading pornhub.
 

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None of us here are Chad and the successful guys on here are using skills they have learned over time and experience.

I agree with Amante's whole "build rapport before the date" thing - it reduces flakes. The idea that you keep contact to a minimum only applies if you can't work text and phone game. For that you need personality and social savvy - and to have those mean you will do well with women anyway. If you are a little awkward and can't command a social situation then yes you will have flakes etc which is why you practice and be confident in your interactions.
 

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Wrong mindset for some.

Some of you are doing the "work" to ensure the girl is into you before the date.

My only concern is whether I will be into her on the date.

Big distinction.

If I schedule 5+ dates for the weekend, there will be a good chance that I will find 1 of the 5 attractive enough (for me) to invest my time and attention into, especially in the context of OLD. To invest time and attention into a particular girl where there is a high probability I wouldn't want to see her again is imprudent.

Double- and triple- booking are the most efficient tools in investing two of your most valuable assets, time and attention. Invest them wisely.
 
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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Amante, I was the one who introduced double- and triple booking into the mainstream for men in the context of OLD. It was brought strictly in response in how to deal with OLD women most effectively.

1) You mentioned in another thread that you can identify if a woman will be attractive enough in person by her pics. If you are as OLD seasoned as you say you are, then you know this is certainly not true. Conversely, some of the best women I have met in person did not appear so attractive in their pics. With the photo-editing tools available today, the angles, the lighting, 2d vs 3d, aesthetic injections (scupltra, radiesse, restalyne), skin-tightning tools (Ultherpay, thermage), makeup/artistry among dozens of other stratagems or augmentations, you cannot with 100% certainty know how a woman will look in person based on even an assiduous evaluation of her pics. And this is coming from a guy who is extremely keen on facial/body aesthetics (e.g. See Richard's pics).

For this reason alone, before knowing how a date will appear in person, it's an imprudent investment of time and attention to build deeper rapport before the date.

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a. Last year around August, I scheduled five dates, one double- and one triple header for Friday and Saturday night, spread one hour apart.

All five showed and were not to my physical liking. Had I invested time into building rapport with them before the date, I would have injudiciously and unnecessarily doled out my time and attention.

b. Last year, sometime after that, I scheduled four dates, two-double headers spread 30 min apart for Friday and Saturday night. It just so turned that all four were attractive this time. I built a harem of four women in under 24 hours. This was the most resourceful, economic use of my time.
 

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Amante, I was the one who introduced double- and triple booking into the mainstream for men in the context of OLD. It was brought strictly in response in how to deal with OLD women most effectively.

1) You mentioned in another thread that you can identify if a woman will be attractive enough in person by her pics. If you are as OLD seasoned as you say you are, then you know this is certainly not true. Conversely, some of the best women I have met in person did not appear so attractive in their pics. With the photo-editing tools available today, the angles, the lighting, 2d vs 3d, aesthetic injections (scupltra, radiesse, restalyne), skin-tightning tools (Ultherpay, thermage), makeup/artistry among dozens of other stratagems or augmentations, you cannot with 100% certainty know how a woman will look in person based on even an assiduous evaluation of her pics. And this is coming from a guy who is extremely keen on facial/body aesthetics (e.g. See Richard's pics).

For this reason alone, before knowing how a date will appear in person, it's an imprudent investment of time and attention to build deeper rapport before the date.

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a. Last year around August, I scheduled five dates, one double- and one triple header for Friday and Saturday night, spread one hour apart.

All five showed and were not to my physical liking. Had I invested time into building rapport with them before the date, I would have injudiciously and unnecessarily doled out my time and attention.

b. Last year, sometime after that, I scheduled four dates, two-double headers spread 30 min apart for Friday and Saturday night. It just so turned that all four were attractive this time. I built a harem of four women in under 24 hours. This was the most resourceful, economic use of my time.
1. how can u be so picky? lol
2. so they werent mad about other girl showing too?
 

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1. how can u be so picky? lol
2. so they werent mad about other girl showing too?
Same-time booking deals more with entertainment value (when I'm in the mood) than effectiveness.

The issue I'd like to all agree on is in the context of OLD that double- and triple- booking with time constraints of 30 min/1 hour between dates are the most effective investments of your time and attention.

Then we can progress on to same time double/triple-booking.
 

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But when I say that I have enough...intuition, experience or whatever, to be able to identify the level of a woman's physical attraction, I am not claiming a high level of accuracy. I am saying that I know enough that I do not recall ever going out to meet what I believe is a 9 only to end up sitting next to a 6 in the bar, for example. In most cases, these discrepancies are a little less dramatic and in most cases may drop her a point, and from my perspective, this is not so prudent as to warrant so much attention to altering strategy.


In my process of building rapport beforehand, I am not doing it to develop chemistry that will hopefully lead to some meaningful LTR. My intent is to get laid. IF something develops beyond that, great. I have always presented myself to be open to such possibilities. But the point here is this: If I go out to meet a 9 and she turns out to be an 8, it's not going to ruin my night. It may alter where I choose to go beyond that, but for that time being, it's just sex.
I've had countless examples of OLD 8s and 9s turning up 2-3 pts. lower. I have also had a dozen+ examples of OLD 7s appearing as 9s in person. Hence, I will schedule a date with an OLD 7 or above. The problem most often occurs when an OLD 7 or 8 appears as a 6 in person.
Amante Silvestre" said:
But you did dole out time and attention meeting up with 5 women you were not attracted to.
Huge distinction between investing into a deep rapport with 5 women, getting ready five different times, and going to five places--as opposed to--setting a date within five minutes of email/texting and meeting 5 women, getting ready two times, and going to two places.

To be more specific:

Your way:

1) You build deep rapport with five women. I could only assume each women you invest at least 30 minutes into before meeting, so you have invested 2.5 hours.

2) You have to get ready five separate times. I assume 30 min each time to get ready, so you have invested 2.5 hours.

3) You have drive to the location, so let's say 15 minutes there and 15 minutes back, so you have invested 2.5 hours.

Total investment: 7.5 hours.


My way:

1) Five minutes per girl with five girls (scheduling the date): 25 minutes total
2) Get ready two times at 30 minutes each. 1 hour total
3) Drive to two locations (two separate days, same location for double- and triple-books), 15 min there, 15 min back twice: 1 hour total.

Total investment: 2.41 hours


My way saves you 5.09 hours per week on weeks that you actively date. The above does not even include date time where you will likely have to invest more time on the date due to the greater rapport you have already established. I can run a side business or manage multiple real-estate holdings with that time, which translates to thousands of dollars per week.

This is strictly a science of time (and money).
 
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I've had countless examples of OLD 8s and 9s turning up 2-3 pts. lower. I have also had a dozen+ examples of OLD 7s appearing as 9s in person. Hence, I will schedule a date with an OLD 7 or above. The problem most often occurs when an OLD 7 or 8 appears as a 6 in person.

Huge distinction between investing into a deep rapport with 5 women, getting ready five different times, and going to five places--as opposed to--setting a date within five minutes of email/texting and meeting 5 women, getting ready two times, and going to two places.

To be more specific:

Your way:

1) You build deep rapport with five women. I could only assume each women you invest at least 30 minutes into before meeting, so you have invested 2.5 hours.

2) You have to get ready five separate times. I assume 30 min each time to get ready, so you have invested 2.5 hours.

3) You have drive to the location, so let's say 15 minutes there and 15 minutes back, so you have invested 2.5 hours.

Total investment: 7.5 hours.


My way:

1) Five minutes per girl with five girls: 25 minutes total
2) Get ready two times at 30 minutes each. 1 hour total
3) Drive to two locations (two separate days, same location for double- and triple-books), 15 min there, 15 min back twice: 1 hour total.

Total investment: 2.41 hours


My way saves you 5.09 hours per week on weeks that you actively date. I can run a side business or manage multiple real-estate holdings with that time, which translates to thousands of dollars per week.

This is strictly a science of time (and money).
wtf 5 min per girl? XD
 

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Well, for starters, I don't typically set up 5 dates on active weeks. It's more like 2. This is because I am more often passively looking to fill a free night here and there with one or two potentials to add into an existing mix of 2 or so women. In light of this, my approach to OLD, as I have often stated here, is very passive. I do not initiate. I do not spend time clicking through profiles looking for women to "like" or message to elicit responses. I do not put any time into sites like Tinder in which I have to devote time swiping for matches and so forth. I only respond to women initiating/expressing enough of an interest to actually contact me. I will even pass up on any effort to court 8's who only "like" my photos.
As stated earlier, I invest 5 minutes per girl from start to the date. A typical open to number takes less than a minute and looks as follows:

http://s682.photobucket.com/user/guru1000/media/IMG_3482_zpsl1yrkjom.png.html?sort=3&o=0

http://s682.photobucket.com/user/guru1000/media/IMG_2338_zpsu4hbgpze.png.html?sort=3&o=7

I have a pipeline of girls waiting anywhere from last week to a few months ago who are waiting for the good ol, "I'm rarely on this site. Give me your number and I will text you to schedule a drink." If I desire to, I can drop this line tonight to 20-25 girls who are waiting and have 20-25 numbers tomorrow morning, all of whom will go out on a date with me sometime this week.

It's not a question of effort, as there is hardly any effort. It's a matter of effective time management in securing attractive women.

Sometimes I'm in the mood to spend time with friends. Other times with plates or FBs. Other times to meet new recruits, and within these times, I schedule 5-10 dates for the weekend (Fri, Sat, Sun).

Amante Silvestre said:
Regardless of the number of dates per week. The 30-minute estimate that I afford building rapport with a woman is a scratch, because as I said, I usually achieve this while being productive in other ways, i.e., while at work earning money for example. I am not devoting free time to this process that could potentially be wasted and could have been used in some other way.
Let's not run the "concurrent time management" retort. Time invested is time invested. You can "concurrently" run two or three businesses (and make more money) instead of 2 or 3 women you never met.

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Yes, I'm going out on 3 individual dates with 3 women when you're going out to meet 3 women on one date. But in the end, you are not bringing all 3 women home that night of your triple booking, unless you are claiming this strategy often has that precise advantage.

So even if you can add the others to your harem, and even if you can bring the others home at some other point in time, you are not really doing anything vastly different. You are still going on one date and bringing home one woman, just the same as I am, regardless of how many show up. You will still have to devote the additional time to get ready, drive to, and execute the dates to follow through with those others (time which you have already added to my system).
The difference is I don't want to bring 3 girls home whom I never met. I want to sieve through the crabs to find one who is attractive enough to merit my time and attention (T & A). To those who are attractive (in person) and have a great attitude, I will invest T & A into. The distinction being you are investing T & A into a girl whom you've never met and cannot predict with 100% certainty that you will be attracted to until you meet her. Unless, of course, you are attracted to or will bang any girl with a hole.

Amante Silvestre said:
And yes, there are times I do end up wasting a little time on a date that doesn't work out, but you too admit that there are times when your strategy also experiences failures, such as your example of the 5 women who you had no attraction for.
The process of meeting and filtering through women is a must, otherwise, you and I wouldn't meet any women. The goal is to invest into the process with the least T & A and the greatest results.
 

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Amante, earlier you stated you're looking strictly for sex. Now you're looking for compatibility. Come on bro. What are you going to tell me now, that you are looking for sex compatibility o_O

This is not rocket science. I screen only for looks at the very beginning because without looks it will not progress further.

Now you state you screen for compatibility. But if she doesn't meet your looks threshold, you must concede you are wasting your time screening for compatibility.

Further, how do you screen for compatibility through text messages, when the honeymoon phase of her best behavior and telling you everything you want to hear lasts a minimum of 2-3 months?? You are being duped by actresses my friend screening for compatibility through text messages with women you have never met and who will tell you everything you want to hear if they have high IL.

The basic facts to vet such as "no kids," "age," "marital status," "occupation," and "interests" are generally in their profile.

Your modus operandi is what you have mastered and has worked for you. This is your "game." Your game was my game 10 years ago too. I don't state this to denigrate, but it was exactly the way that I used to operate. I evolved. Today it is ... SHOW ME the goods first ... then I'll decide if I want to invest.
 

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I'd like to hear some details of how the 3 girls on 1 date concept typically plays out? Everybody introduce each other, then share a table together? :D Any of these girls get mad and walk out? Any of them give you props for doing it?

Or do you book back to back time slots for each one and kick them out when their time is up?
 

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I'd like to hear some details of how the 3 girls on 1 date concept typically plays out? Everybody introduce each other, then share a table together? :D Any of these girls get mad and walk out? Any of them give you props for doing it?

Or do you book back to back time slots for each one and kick them out when their time is up?
Typically, time slot bookings, with 30 min to 1 hour slots. Eject with, "Great meeting you, I have to run. I'll be in touch."

I have done over a dozen same-time bookings. Most were my immediate dismissal of the lower and indulge the hotter, and several attempts at both at the same time trying to get them back to my place. I have yet to get a 3- or 4-some out of these type of bookings. Maybe I have to get my game up ;)
 

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So what happened @sosousage

You pvssied out didn't you.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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