"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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People who are unhappy and who live "broken lives" have often been without the results they desire for so long that they no longer believe they can produce the results that they want. They do little or nothing to tap their potential and begin to try to find out how they can get their life to where they're doing as little as possible.

From such actions, what results do they achieve? Of course, they are miserable results that break down their beliefs even more, if that's possible
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The New Science Of Personal Achievement
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Atom Smasher has a pretty compelling story.

Of my friends that are virgins, one is a hopeless case that will end up as that 40 year old man and the other is improving every day due to character and willpower differences that Bingo mentioned. Also, hate to admit it but the one improving is better looking and gets attention from women unprovoked, as well as lives in a more robust area for picking up women, which could account for the differences. Negative vs positive feedback loops.

Strangely enough, the more bitter one actually has had more lifetime success with women though....mainly crawling his way out of the friend zone after kissing womens' a$$es...so even his experience is counterproductive lol.
my point stands. a guy who hasn't even had a date by 40 doesn't have a chance in hell of getting a lay. a beta loser
 

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There is something I am trying to figure out. There is a universal language for all humans, maybe a movement or sound or sound with a specific form of body language, that can cause a women to be so turned on somehow just by what you did. I'm wondering how to do it though. Maybe it differs for each person. But, if someone could figure this out, they could marry pornastars in their 90s
 

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ImTheDoubleGreatest! said:
There is something I am trying to figure out. There is a universal language for all humans, maybe a movement or sound or sound with a specific form of body language, that can cause a women to be so turned on somehow just by what you did. I'm wondering how to do it though. Maybe it differs for each person. But, if someone could figure this out, they could marry pornastars in their 90s
I highly doubt it. PUA gurus have been promising this "Secret Body Language Trick to Increase Attraction 97 Percent" for years.

I don't think body language has much to do with increasing attraction. Poor body language can LOWER attraction, but I have my doubts that "good" body language can materially INCREASE attraction beyond what was already there.
 

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Geez would it be possible. I'm totally Joe Average with minimal game and I've had over 40 women by age 45 including one marriage and 3 other live-ins. Quality was variable but last 3 were at least HB7s - which is all I'm aiming for - you need personality more for the long-haul. Does get harder as u get older - women in their 30s have more baggage than Gucci but hey don't we all ;-)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Espi said:
I became aware of the PUA community at 35 and have since met and laid more women than in the previous 20 years.
We're not talking about improving. The guy in the OP's example has never dated, has never even kissed a girl! Can he improve? Well, he sure as heck can't do much worse!

But to be 40 years old and never to have even kissed a girl? That guy is going to have some severe inner game issues that are going to be tap dancing in his head. I can't say it's impossible for him, but he's going to have a huge uphill battle.
 
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