"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Can A Man Ever Be Justified In Kicking A Woman' A**
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
for the most part you shouldn't have to hurt any woman at all unless the woman has a gun in one hand and scissors in the other but then were talking about extremes.
Most women do not have a reason to get beat though. So no.
Most women do not have a reason to get beat though. So no.
Brother_Rapp
Banned
Well, I guess it’s time for me to throw in my 2 cents. All though I don’t like to do it, I believe there can be a situation where a guy is justified in kicking a woman’s a**. That when you let your gal out the house and she ain’t house broke. I’ll tell you what I mean. I was checking into a hotel once and there was a guy in front of me at the desk. Him and his gal got to arguing and after a while, they stopped. Then she kicked him in his ass. A strange feeling came over me. Suddenly, I wanted to kick the guy in his a** too. You can not let your gal embarrass you in public. Generally speaking, it’s not a good idea to hit a woman. But if you allow her to embarrass you out in public, other guys will try to punk you out. I refer you to “The Rules Of The Game” #24
24) A smart woman knows when to shut the **** up. She’s got enough sense not to argue with you in public and force you into a position of having to assert your authority by slapping the **** out of her when that really isn’t what you want to do. She has enough sense to wait till ya’ll get behind closed doors to give you a piece of her mind. You women reading this, please try and understand. Arguing with your man in public is like cutting off his balls. Other guys will see it as weakness on his part. It will be harder for him to defend you against them vultures. He has no alterative but to slap you down, if nothing else so he won’t have to fight all these other mother****ers. Now he’s either cut up in the hospital or dead and you’re wondering why those guys did that to him.
So if she hits you, you know you got to beat the shyt out of her.
Here’s another situation. Let’s say that you are black, living in a predominantly black neighborhood and your gal is white. You might be saying niggu this and niggu that all day long in the house and she may get the feeling that she can say it too. If she breaks out with it in public, you got to kick her a**. Everybody knows that I’m telling the truth. See, this is what I mean by house broke. If your gal don’t know how to act at home, don’t take her outside till she does.
That’s why my vote is “yes” on the poll.
Wildfire, I hope you're paying attention.
24) A smart woman knows when to shut the **** up. She’s got enough sense not to argue with you in public and force you into a position of having to assert your authority by slapping the **** out of her when that really isn’t what you want to do. She has enough sense to wait till ya’ll get behind closed doors to give you a piece of her mind. You women reading this, please try and understand. Arguing with your man in public is like cutting off his balls. Other guys will see it as weakness on his part. It will be harder for him to defend you against them vultures. He has no alterative but to slap you down, if nothing else so he won’t have to fight all these other mother****ers. Now he’s either cut up in the hospital or dead and you’re wondering why those guys did that to him.
So if she hits you, you know you got to beat the shyt out of her.
Here’s another situation. Let’s say that you are black, living in a predominantly black neighborhood and your gal is white. You might be saying niggu this and niggu that all day long in the house and she may get the feeling that she can say it too. If she breaks out with it in public, you got to kick her a**. Everybody knows that I’m telling the truth. See, this is what I mean by house broke. If your gal don’t know how to act at home, don’t take her outside till she does.
That’s why my vote is “yes” on the poll.
Wildfire, I hope you're paying attention.
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
you just next that girl if she does anything that bad. You don't take disrespect like that. Violence is such an unneccessary thing. Use it only as a last resort. It only leads to more problems like her getting her bigger and badder guy friends after you or the police. I advocate restraining in extreme cases and not violence.
wtf is wrong with you?
Brother_Rapp: I feel sorry for ANY women that knows you
To me it seems that you are trying to act like a wannabe gangster, or maybe u are one? Either way, you got alot to learn on how to treat a woman, and I suggest seeking some anger management help, and maybe a few "how to treat women" classes .... Seriously man... your way of thinking will only lead you to MORE trouble and probably jail one day... Snap out of it!
Laterz...
Brother_Rapp: I feel sorry for ANY women that knows you
To me it seems that you are trying to act like a wannabe gangster, or maybe u are one? Either way, you got alot to learn on how to treat a woman, and I suggest seeking some anger management help, and maybe a few "how to treat women" classes .... Seriously man... your way of thinking will only lead you to MORE trouble and probably jail one day... Snap out of it! Laterz...
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Brother_Rapp
Banned
comic_relief & ~ªêQµïTª$~
Hypothetical situation. You’re in a pool hall shooting pool with your guys and your gal comes up to you and puts her foot up you’re a **. Then you let it pass. Then you go back to that pool hall the following day and see what happens to you. Question: What do you think will happen to you? Just like kids, man. You have to make sure they know how to act at home. You take them to the grocery store and they act up. Yeah, you can say “Just wait till I get you home and all that shyt. You have too ‘cause if you put a hand on them out in public, the politically correct crowd will call the police on you. But if you’re with your boys, that ain’t gonna work. They see right then. Damn the police. Whether you’re going to jail or not, you have to do it. No, ordinarily, it’s not a good idea to kick your gal’ a**. But you just can’t give a woman card blanch. She has to know that there is a line drawn somewhere, where if she crosses it, you will kick her as*.
Hypothetical situation. You’re in a pool hall shooting pool with your guys and your gal comes up to you and puts her foot up you’re a **. Then you let it pass. Then you go back to that pool hall the following day and see what happens to you. Question: What do you think will happen to you? Just like kids, man. You have to make sure they know how to act at home. You take them to the grocery store and they act up. Yeah, you can say “Just wait till I get you home and all that shyt. You have too ‘cause if you put a hand on them out in public, the politically correct crowd will call the police on you. But if you’re with your boys, that ain’t gonna work. They see right then. Damn the police. Whether you’re going to jail or not, you have to do it. No, ordinarily, it’s not a good idea to kick your gal’ a**. But you just can’t give a woman card blanch. She has to know that there is a line drawn somewhere, where if she crosses it, you will kick her as*.
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Would u rather be known as a women abuser or a man that got hit by a woman but never hit her back? (gentleman)
If you are known as a women abuser NOONE will have any respect for you, and its a big turn-off to ANYONE.
If you are known to have been "beaten up" by a woman but u never hit her back, you will be looked upon with respect, because we all KNOW that being a man you would be able to kick her ass, its the fact that u chose NOT to kick her ass that people will respect you for.
The only people that will laugh at you for letting a girl "beat u up" are people with the maturity levels of a 5 year old kid. REAL men would tell you to not feel bad and that you did the right thing.
And for the record, a woman wouldn’t hit you if you don’t give her reason to, and if a woman does kick u in the ass, then instead of tuning her and beating her up, you can turn it into a playfull joke thing, and f its IS serious, then u can tell her that she must keep this **** for a time when u are NOT in public. And if she continues, then ignore her or SPEAK to you, violence wont get u anywhere! When will you wannabe hardasses realise that?
So you'll beat the **** out of her.... then what? 1st of all she will leave your sorry ass, then people will think badly of you, AND it will stay with you forever (that u beat a woman) ... How does that make u a man? Because some of your friends might think that you are "kewl"? Like I said, if that’s the case, then their maturity lever are of 5 year old kids. And if you are living in a place where people will come kick your ass just because they see that your girl hit you and u let her, then I suggest moving ASAP.
I say again, snap out of it, the both of you, you are talking utter garbage! And just the fact that you are speaking like you are in this thread, I have lost respect for the both of you, and that goes for anyone that agrees that its ok to beat women. If you are doing it to prove your manlyhood/masculinity, then I feel even more sorry for you. How the HELL can you want to beat the sh!t out of the girl that u are with (which means that you should like her/love her) what’s wrong with you?
I can go on forever on how pathetic I think your way of looking at this is, but hopefully you'll snap out of your warped way of looking at things.
Would u rather be known as a women abuser or a man that got hit by a woman but never hit her back? (gentleman)
If you are known as a women abuser NOONE will have any respect for you, and its a big turn-off to ANYONE.
If you are known to have been "beaten up" by a woman but u never hit her back, you will be looked upon with respect, because we all KNOW that being a man you would be able to kick her ass, its the fact that u chose NOT to kick her ass that people will respect you for.
The only people that will laugh at you for letting a girl "beat u up" are people with the maturity levels of a 5 year old kid. REAL men would tell you to not feel bad and that you did the right thing.
And for the record, a woman wouldn’t hit you if you don’t give her reason to, and if a woman does kick u in the ass, then instead of tuning her and beating her up, you can turn it into a playfull joke thing, and f its IS serious, then u can tell her that she must keep this **** for a time when u are NOT in public. And if she continues, then ignore her or SPEAK to you, violence wont get u anywhere! When will you wannabe hardasses realise that?
So you'll beat the **** out of her.... then what? 1st of all she will leave your sorry ass, then people will think badly of you, AND it will stay with you forever (that u beat a woman) ... How does that make u a man? Because some of your friends might think that you are "kewl"? Like I said, if that’s the case, then their maturity lever are of 5 year old kids. And if you are living in a place where people will come kick your ass just because they see that your girl hit you and u let her, then I suggest moving ASAP.
I say again, snap out of it, the both of you, you are talking utter garbage! And just the fact that you are speaking like you are in this thread, I have lost respect for the both of you, and that goes for anyone that agrees that its ok to beat women. If you are doing it to prove your manlyhood/masculinity, then I feel even more sorry for you. How the HELL can you want to beat the sh!t out of the girl that u are with (which means that you should like her/love her) what’s wrong with you?
I can go on forever on how pathetic I think your way of looking at this is, but hopefully you'll snap out of your warped way of looking at things.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
Stop calling my girlfriend out you jack ass! Sarah has never been in a fight in her life and as long as I'm around I'll make sure she never does.
If sarah were to hit me in the face it'd probably be because I did or said something that could only have come out of your mouth Brother Rapp. NONE of my girlfriends have ever raised a hand to me becuase I'm a good guy and I treat them with respect. If for some reason a girl wouldn't treat me with respect I'll simply leave her.
I've beaten the sh*t out of plenty of guys who were much bigger then my 6'1" 190. Sarah is 6'2" 147, there's no way she'd even survive a mauling if I put one on her, and I doubt I could live with myself if I did. Especially while rotting in jail.
If a girl is threatening your life she'd first have to have a weapon and anything short of a gun you can take from her. If she does have a gun and is out of arms reach then you'll have to talk to diffuse the situation anyway. But if you're smart, and aren't dating a psycho, then it should never come to that point anyway.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
Re: wtf is wrong with you?
Brother Rapp is just a straight dumb ass aequitas. He's done too much acid in the 70's and smokes too much weed now to have his mind in the right place anymore. He views women as second class citizens and this is why he thinks the way he does.Originally posted by ~ªêQµïTª$~
Brother_Rapp: I feel sorry for ANY women that knows you
Laterz...
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
I'd rather be the MAN who knew to walk away before beating a girl who in all likely hood can't handle themself nearly as good as you can in hand to hand combat.
There's nothing wrong with walking away from a girl hitting you. No one will think less of you because you don't have anything to prove physically.
Brother_Rapp
Banned
~ªêQµïTª$~
Would u rather be known as a women abuser or a man that got hit by a woman but never hit her back? (gentleman)
Brother Rapp
You’ve only given two choices when there are more then that. Your argument is flawed.
~ªêQµïTª$~
If you are known as a women abuser NOONE will have any respect for you, and its a big turn-off to ANYONE.
If you are known to have been "beaten up" by a woman but u never hit her back, you will be looked upon with respect, because we all KNOW that being a man you would be able to kick her ass, its the fact that u chose NOT to kick her ass that people will respect you for.
Brother Rapp
You just ain’t lived in the ghetto have you?
~ªêQµïTª$~
The only people that will laugh at you for letting a girl "beat u up" are people with the maturity levels of a 5 year old kid. REAL men would tell you to not feel bad and that you did the right thing.
Brother Rapp
How are you qualified to give definition to what a real man is or isn’t? By the way, am I talking to a man or a woman? It can be so difficult to determine that at timers.
Different viewpoints are given from different points of view.
~ªêQµïTª$~
And for the record, a woman wouldn’t hit you if you don’t give her reason to, and if a woman does kick u in the ass, then instead of tuning her and beating her up, you can turn it into a playfull joke thing, and f its IS serious, then u can tell her that she must keep this **** for a time when u are NOT in public. And if she continues, then ignore her or SPEAK to you, violence wont get u anywhere! When will you wannabe hardasses realise that?
Brother Rapp
Everyone has a reason to do what they are doing at the present time. That reason can appear sane to them, but insane to others. The sole act of your gal hitting you does not justify that act. So if she shoots me, the merely the act in of itself, justifies itself? Or are you saying that a woman can do no wrong?
~ªêQµïTª$~
So you'll beat the **** out of her.... then what? 1st of all she will leave your sorry ass, then people will think badly of you, AND it will stay with you forever (that u beat a woman) ... How does that make u a man? Because some of your friends might think that you are "kewl"? Like I said, if that’s the case, then their maturity lever are of 5 year old kids. And if you are living in a place where people will come kick your ass just because they see that your girl hit you and u let her, then I suggest moving ASAP.
I say again, snap out of it, the both of you, you are talking utter garbage! And just the fact that you are speaking like you are in this thread, I have lost respect for the both of you, and that goes for anyone that agrees that its ok to beat women. If you are doing it to prove your manlyhood/masculinity, then I feel even more sorry for you. How the HELL can you want to beat the sh!t out of the girl that u are with (which means that you should like her/love her) what’s wrong with you?
I can go on forever on how pathetic I think your way of looking at this is, but hopefully you'll snap out of your warped way of looking at things.
Brother Rapp
Does someone have a gun to your head making you read this? You aren’t hurting my feelings one bit if you peel off to another tread. Don’t let the doorknob hit you on the way out.
PRM
You and I don't have shyt to talk about.
I can't understand why my signature doesn't come up (If a woman didn't have a period once a month, she wouldn't need a mouth).
Would u rather be known as a women abuser or a man that got hit by a woman but never hit her back? (gentleman)
Brother Rapp
You’ve only given two choices when there are more then that. Your argument is flawed.
~ªêQµïTª$~
If you are known as a women abuser NOONE will have any respect for you, and its a big turn-off to ANYONE.
If you are known to have been "beaten up" by a woman but u never hit her back, you will be looked upon with respect, because we all KNOW that being a man you would be able to kick her ass, its the fact that u chose NOT to kick her ass that people will respect you for.
Brother Rapp
You just ain’t lived in the ghetto have you?
~ªêQµïTª$~
The only people that will laugh at you for letting a girl "beat u up" are people with the maturity levels of a 5 year old kid. REAL men would tell you to not feel bad and that you did the right thing.
Brother Rapp
How are you qualified to give definition to what a real man is or isn’t? By the way, am I talking to a man or a woman? It can be so difficult to determine that at timers.
Different viewpoints are given from different points of view.
~ªêQµïTª$~
And for the record, a woman wouldn’t hit you if you don’t give her reason to, and if a woman does kick u in the ass, then instead of tuning her and beating her up, you can turn it into a playfull joke thing, and f its IS serious, then u can tell her that she must keep this **** for a time when u are NOT in public. And if she continues, then ignore her or SPEAK to you, violence wont get u anywhere! When will you wannabe hardasses realise that?
Brother Rapp
Everyone has a reason to do what they are doing at the present time. That reason can appear sane to them, but insane to others. The sole act of your gal hitting you does not justify that act. So if she shoots me, the merely the act in of itself, justifies itself? Or are you saying that a woman can do no wrong?
~ªêQµïTª$~
So you'll beat the **** out of her.... then what? 1st of all she will leave your sorry ass, then people will think badly of you, AND it will stay with you forever (that u beat a woman) ... How does that make u a man? Because some of your friends might think that you are "kewl"? Like I said, if that’s the case, then their maturity lever are of 5 year old kids. And if you are living in a place where people will come kick your ass just because they see that your girl hit you and u let her, then I suggest moving ASAP.
I say again, snap out of it, the both of you, you are talking utter garbage! And just the fact that you are speaking like you are in this thread, I have lost respect for the both of you, and that goes for anyone that agrees that its ok to beat women. If you are doing it to prove your manlyhood/masculinity, then I feel even more sorry for you. How the HELL can you want to beat the sh!t out of the girl that u are with (which means that you should like her/love her) what’s wrong with you?
I can go on forever on how pathetic I think your way of looking at this is, but hopefully you'll snap out of your warped way of looking at things.
Brother Rapp
Does someone have a gun to your head making you read this? You aren’t hurting my feelings one bit if you peel off to another tread. Don’t let the doorknob hit you on the way out.
PRM
You and I don't have shyt to talk about.
I can't understand why my signature doesn't come up (If a woman didn't have a period once a month, she wouldn't need a mouth).
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
Got that much right loser.
Not replying to this thread anymore...
Brother_Rapp: I'm not even going to bother replying to that, all I can say is that IMO you are full of sh!t and a waste of my time. You refuse to take other ppl's opinions and you think that your way is always right. What i was telling you was giving you a wakeup call that you are going down a one way road to jail, but it looks to me that you are a lost cause, so I'm going to halt trying to knock sence into you, your brain capacity seems to have reached its limit.. too bad its filled up with stupidity rather than wisdom
Laterz...
Brother_Rapp: I'm not even going to bother replying to that, all I can say is that IMO you are full of sh!t and a waste of my time. You refuse to take other ppl's opinions and you think that your way is always right. What i was telling you was giving you a wakeup call that you are going down a one way road to jail, but it looks to me that you are a lost cause, so I'm going to halt trying to knock sence into you, your brain capacity seems to have reached its limit.. too bad its filled up with stupidity rather than wisdom
Laterz...
TyTe`EyEs
Master Don Juan
I hate wifebeaters...I'm not talking about the shirt either.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Exactly they can't handle themselves as well as a man can physically so they should never under any circumstances hit a man. A 5'2 guy with a half a brain would never hit a 6'5 guy because he knows that most likely he can't handle himself as well physically. Just because she's a woman she's allowed to hit a man? I thought they wanted equality these days. Don't give me bull**** that women won't like him because he hit another girl.
I just feel that if anybody hits you first you can hit them back. I wouldn't hit a girl if she slapped me for doing something wrong but if she bloodies my nose it's on.
Brother_Rapp
Banned
TyTe`EyEs
Ain't nobody talking about a wife beater. I feel that a guy should try his best to settle a dispute with his gal in a verbal manner. However, there has to be a line that she can't cross. Are you saying that there are ABSOLUTELY no situations in which a gal deserves an a** kicking?
And the way some of these gals train (karate , kick boxing, {did you see "Million Dollar Baby"?}, ain't nothing said in stone that you're going to win a fight with a gal.
They have the right to vote. They can stand on that front battle line with a rifle in their hands too. If they want to step out of that lady stuff and want to go toe to toe, I say come on with it.
Signature: If a woman didn't have a period once a month, she wouldn't need a mouth.
Ain't nobody talking about a wife beater. I feel that a guy should try his best to settle a dispute with his gal in a verbal manner. However, there has to be a line that she can't cross. Are you saying that there are ABSOLUTELY no situations in which a gal deserves an a** kicking?
And the way some of these gals train (karate , kick boxing, {did you see "Million Dollar Baby"?}, ain't nothing said in stone that you're going to win a fight with a gal.
They have the right to vote. They can stand on that front battle line with a rifle in their hands too. If they want to step out of that lady stuff and want to go toe to toe, I say come on with it.
Signature: If a woman didn't have a period once a month, she wouldn't need a mouth.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
I'm in partial ageement with you. I have fought girls in the past but they were fair fights, where the girlswere well equipped. But even in those circumstances I didn't fight to kick their asses, I just fought for a stalemate. Even when it's "justified" I don't feel right about hitting women. I also don't feel right fighting guys who aren't prepared for the engagment they stepped into.
My pops showed me how to fight when i was very young, he served two tours in nam so he showed me how to handle myself pretty well. I opted to take some martial arts when in was in my teens just to refine myself. Not saying I'm the baddest person alive, as I've taken some serious beat downs in my life, but I don't feel good about beating people who are obviously over matched. The ONLY time I'll beat someone into submition is if this person is VERY dangerous and won't stay down. I've never come across a girl who doesn't know when they're in over their head. The girls I have fought have conceded very quickly and I didn't have to deal out any serious damage.
Maybe it's just me, but even if I'm fighting a marine chick, I won't go full bout on them. It's probably a mental block that I've built up over the years, but I just can't do it.
Brother_Rapp
Banned
I’m just not going to stand there and let anybody do whatever they want to do to my body. If a gal hits me, I’m going to hit her back. And if she gets back up off the sidewalk after I hit her and she wants to go some more, I’m going to do my best to kick the shyt out of her. That goes for any man, woman, child, animal or whatever that wants to put their hands on me to hurt me.
That’s one of the things that you should address in the beginning of a relationship with a gal. There will be no violence on her part or yours.
That’s one of the things that you should address in the beginning of a relationship with a gal. There will be no violence on her part or yours.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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