"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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camera phones?

humiliator

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I just got a new cell phone. It's one of those with the sh*tty camera built in. I heard about a 4th of July college kegger that sounds pretty cool. I was just thinking that an EASY way to get kino is, after talking to a girl for a few minutes, pull out the phone to take a picture. Then you can put your arm around her while taking the pic of you two.

I just wanted to see if anyone has tried this or what you guys think of this idea.

Also, a lot of my friends are not seeking girls that actively, so I might be going to this kegger alone. Are there any tips on things you need to do differently going to a party alone?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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lebRambo

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well, being a computer engineering major would explain why your friends dont actively seek girls. trust me bro, I am a software engineering student, and collectively, we're not the coolest bunch. :D

yeah, i've got a camera phone but the camera is actually very good (Samsung E700). It does help as something to validate kino, but if you are doing it right, kino should need no validation. It should just be something that you do naturally, like talking or walking.
 

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So what happens after you take the picture?
 

gimmeyofonenumba

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you end with a number close since you already got your phone out, and you come to ss and post the pic
 

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my camera phone sucks ass.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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undesputable

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i hate people who pull out a camara for everything. what the hell is the point of taking a pic with a girl youve just met?post it on here and say youre the biggest pimp in the world?
 

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Originally posted by gimmeyofonenumba
you end with a number close since you already got your phone out, and you come to ss and post the pic
Getting the number seems like the natural thing to do since you have the phone out. Would it have to be a closing though? My ultimate goal in doing the bootcamp is to get ONS's. I want to try for a make out session at the party if possible.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by gimmeyofonenumba
you end with a number close since you already got your phone out, and you come to ss and post the pic
So you are saying it is as easy as:

  1. Chat with a chick.
  2. Take her picture with a camera phone.
  3. Ask for her number since your phone is out.
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I dont like flashing a camera phone around..but sometimes it does help you out in the convo. Last thursday at a local bar, i saw a group of 4 chicks fooling around with their cam phones. I just went up with my phone, and fluffed around..and oh mines a Nokia 6600..so pretty gud qlty.

I did # close on two of those chicks.:D
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by redshift
I dont like flashing a camera phone around..but sometimes it does help you out in the convo. Last thursday at a local bar, i saw a group of 4 chicks fooling around with their cam phones. I just went up with my phone, and fluffed around..and oh mines a Nokia 6600..so pretty gud qlty.

I did # close on two of those chicks.:D
I think it's kinda funny though using a phone as a prop. It's just because I haven't carried a personal cell phone for many years. There was no such thing as a phone that could do anything other than call another phone back then. :p

But through an onslaught of requests from friends getting upset with me because I'm never available since I don't carry a phone, I've been contemplating taking the plunge. I'm a bit keen on the Motorola Razor v3 but I'm not crazy about signing up for a two year contract with Cingular.

So here's a couple of questions for the masses;
  1. What do you guys think of T-Mobile as a service provider?
  2. Would it be worth buying an UNLOCKED version of the Razor or wait for T-Mobile to carry it which may be anywhere between the end of the summer to the end of the year?
  3. Where would be the best place to buy an unlocked Razor? (J&R, eBay, local cellular store)?
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GodsGiftToFatBirds

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I did # close on two of those chicks
Out of interest, how do you go about number closing more than 1 girl in a group?
Are you like 'I'll have to take your numbers' to the whole group (ie not showing that you're interested in any one of them in particular) or just to the ones you're interested in? Or do you number close them separately (ie when they're not with the rest of their friends)?

Camera phones - useful for checking you didn't have the beer goggles on the night before
:D
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by humiliator
Go on google and see if you can find instructions on unlocking your phone. It's not exactly legal, but my brother had to unlock his phone and it was super easy after we found a tutorial for it.
Yeah, I've looked but I haven't found anything other than a device that costs $180. It seems the Razor isn't like a Nokia where you can download software to flash the BIOS to unlock it. At least no one has created or released such a program yet.
 

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Yeah i just signed up to a new phone with heaps of new stuff on it, and stuff i could never do before on other networks, its LG and says it can't be unlocked. I also got a new number as well. I will have to update it in my profile. ;)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Well, I've had my Motorola Razr with T-Mobile for about a week. Not too bad, haven't had it when sarging though, I've never had the need for it but I think I'll play around with some of the suggestions that's been posted about using it while on the hunt.
 
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