Calling a woman out

[FlexpertHamilton]

This is where I disagree with Sosuave.

When a woman goes out of her way to say not interested, the man HAS to respond. Now if the man asks her out again, THEN she can say "not interested, go to hell, don't ever touch me, etc." That's 100% ok because the man asked her out again.

But when man hasn't said anything and the woman takes time out of her day to write a text saying "not romantically interested" when the man hasn't said anything, he HAS to respond. 100%.

This teaching by Sosuave to walk away in this site situation is a weak mindset. Very Beta thinking.

It's a weak/beta behavior in almost any other context but here? There's literally no point. If a women expresses disinterest after a date, regardless of how cuñtily she does it, what's the point in even responding? Do you know that the most punishing thing you can do to a women is to ignore her? She probably wants a response so she can take a screenshot and show how "toxic" men are. If you don't respond, she doesn't get her little dopamine hit, and by not responding you are showing her you don't even care that she isn't interested.

 

[BadBoy89]

It's a weak/beta behavior in almost any other context but here? There's literally no point. If a women expresses disinterest after a date, regardless of how cuñtily she does it, what's the point in even responding?

It's not about the cruelty of her response. It's about the her assumption that I wanted to have sex with her.

Again, if I asked her out again, and she told me to go to hell, that perfectly fine, I would have no issue with that Yet when I don't say anything, and she goes out of her way to tell me to go hell, we have a problem.

A woman can tell me she is Sexy. but not at my expense,

Do you know that the most punishing thing you can do to a women is to ignore her? She probably wants a response so she can take a screenshot and show how "toxic" men are. If you don't respond, she doesn't get her little dopamine hit, and by not responding you are showing her you don't even care that she isn't interested.

This isn't about ignoring her or her getting a dopamine hit. Ignoring a girl is when she acts up or is angry about you with another girl or something. This is about "She goes out of her way to make an assumption that she is so sexy at my expense, I will go out of my way to correct that assumption at her expense"

I'm very sensitive to stuff like this. Maybe that's why I'm not a top Alpha like you guys, maybe that's why I can't sleep with hot girls so fast, maybe that's why I don't have 5 girls on rotation." But you cannot get away with stuff like that with me. I will call a woman on it everytime,[/quote][/QUOTE]

 

[Sega Genesis]

@BadBoy89 I think you are WAY overreacting here. Talking about her believing she is "so sexy and assuming you want to f*** her"? Or her being angry and telling you to go to hell?

Where are you getting all that? All she said and I am quoting you was "Hi Badboy, thanks for coffee, just wanted to say didn't feel romantic connection. Good luck in your search."

This was a very polite and respectful message. I do NOT think it was necessary again given there was no mutual attraction or chemistry on the date, but the intention behind the message was polite and respectful.

Many men (mature, gounded, emotionally calibrated) would have appreciated a message like that! And simply ignored it or replied with something like "Tnx, nor did I. Good luck to you as well."

Why get angry about it and feel you had to "call her out"? For what? Sending a polite message thanking you for coffee, that she wasn't feeling it and good luck"?

Where is this anger and need to "call women out" about something so insignificant coming from?

Serious question.

There is a lot of discussion here about as a man controlling his emotions and I think it applies here.

Sorry I think you're a good guy I am just not getting your mindset about this.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

@BadBoy89 I think you are WAY overreacting here. Talking about her believing she is "so sexy and assuming you want to f*** her"? Or her being angry and telling you to go to hell?

Where are you getting all that? All she said and I am quoting you was "Hi Badboy, thanks for coffee, just wanted to say didn't feel romantic connection. Good luck in your search."

This was a very polite and respectful message. I do NOT think it was necessary again given there was no mutual attraction or chemistry on the date, but the intention behind the message was polite and respectful.

Many men (mature, gounded, emotionally calibrated) would have appreciated a message like that! And simply ignored it or replied with something like "Tnx, nor did I. Good luck to you as well."

Why get angry about it and feel you had to "call her out"? For what? Sending a polite message thanking you for coffee, that she wasn't feeling it and good luck"?

Where is this anger and need to "call women out" about something so insignificant coming from?

Serious question.

There is a lot of discussion here about as a man controlling his emotions and I think it applies here.

Sorry I think you're a good guy I am just not getting your mindset about this.

This is exactly what I am talking about when I talk about people go from one end of the spectrum to the other at first until the ones who end up figuring it out end up somewhere in the middle 70%.

Guys go from being way too nice, then they come here and learn about this causing issues and they go entirely to the other end of the spectrum where everything is something they have to be up in arms about as if it's a test or disrespectful, etc.

Then once they figure it out they realize that neither end of the spectrum is a good place to be. Hopefully OP figures that out sooner rather than later, versus this is exactly the type of thing that a person who hasn't yet done so posts.

 

[quodlibet]

I think it's time to let this thread die. I have a feeling it's just a successful act of trolling. People getting so worked up.

 

[Gamisch]

Nah bro. First off all; please answer why you come back to this after more than one and a half years....Secondly, ofcourse a woman gonna say she aint interested after you went on a date with her and she didn't feel the vibe...

If you wasn't interested you wouldn't go om a feckomg date with her!!! Duh!. Cmon bro..dint let your ego get the best of you.

I am just catching stray bullets for no reason lol

It's YOUR fault!!!

 

[Clockwerk50]

I think it's time to let this thread die. I have a feeling it's just a successful act of trolling. People getting so worked up.

OP is legit, and I don't think this is trolling. That’s why it’s surprising. Judging by his post count and how long he's been around, you'd expect him to have internalized concepts like frame, frame control, **** tests, and the rest by now. Instead, he seems to be stuck arguing the same point a year and a half later.

No disrespect, but I think men like the OP would be happier if they had never discovered the manosphere. They find it and get stuck somewhere between being unplugged and spiraling into an endless analysis of what it means to stay unplugged. They end up trapped between a pseudo-red-pill anger haze and a blue-pill validation-seeking mindset.

Ironically, this isn't having a strong frame at all; OP is being controlled by someone else's actions and opinions. If he constantly feels compelled to defend his frame, he's probably operating from a place of insecurity rather than confidence. Someone with a solid frame doesn't need to keep proving they have one.

 

[BadBoy89]

Where are you getting all that? All she said and I am quoting you was "Hi Badboy, thanks for coffee, just wanted to say didn't feel romantic connection. Good luck in your search."

This was a very polite and respectful message. I do NOT think it was necessary again given there was no mutual attraction or chemistry on the date, but the intention behind the message was polite and respectful.

This is not a very polite and respectful message, This is “don’t ever text me again” disguised as very polite and respectful.

To tell me not to text you, when I haven’t said I wanted to, that’s the issue. That’s going out of her way to hit the guy for no reason. I will respond accordingly.

Many men (mature, gounded, emotionally calibrated) would have appreciated a message like that! And simply ignored it or replied with something like "Tnx, nor did I. Good luck to you as well."

Only if the man asked her out again. I have had women say worse than that and I’ve had NO problem with it. Why? Because I asked her out again.

But for a woman to go out of her way to text me ”don’t ever text me again, ever.“. To take time out of her day to text me that, when I’m minding my own business? Doesn’t work honey.

Why get angry about it and feel you had to "call her out"? For what?

For the same reason she felt she had to take time out of her day to tell me not interested when I haven’t told her I wanted to see her again.

Where is this anger and need to "call women out" about something so insignificant coming from?

Serious question.

There is a lot of discussion here about as a man controlling his emotions and I think it applies here.

This isn’t so much about anger, This is about “honey, you make an assumption about my feeling, I will correct that assumption.”

If she feels it’s so necessary to take time of her day to text me “don’t me text me again“ when I didnt initiate anything, I will take time out of my day to text her back “I wasn’t going to”

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This is not a very polite and respectful message, This is “don’t ever text me again” disguised as very polite and respectful.

To tell me not to text you, when I haven’t said I wanted to, that’s the issue. That’s going out of her way to hit the guy for no reason. I will respond accordingly.



Only if the man asked her out again. I have had women say worse than that and I’ve had NO problem with it. Why? Because I asked her out again.

But for a woman to go out of her way to text me ”don’t ever text me again, ever.“. To take time out of her day to text me that, when I’m minding my own business? Doesn’t work honey.



For the same reason she felt she had to take time out of her day to tell me not interested when I haven’t told her I wanted to see her again.



This isn’t so much about anger, This is about “honey, you make an assumption about my feeling, I will correct that assumption.”

If she feels it’s so necessary to take time of her day to text me “don’t me text me again“ when I didnt initiate anything, I will take time out of my day to text her back “I wasn’t going to”

You are literally creating problems that don't exist in your own mind on this. Sorry. This is a non-issue that you are treating as DEFCON 5 level which is getting absurd if I am being honest.

All that needs to be said, if anything, is "OK, thanks for letting me know."

And then move forward like she never existed.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

You are literally creating problems that don't exist in your own mind on this. Sorry. This is a non-issue that you are treating as DEFCON 5 level which is getting absurd if I am being honest.

All that needs to be said, if anything, is "OK, thanks for letting me know."

And then move forward like she never existed.

Im more intrigued by the fact that this is the second time he revives the thread after a while for no reason.