"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Alright I havnt been on here in a really long time but now I am back in the swing of things to everyone who doesnt know me my name is tom.

Anyhow I got a hottie that I met and took her out to fireworks with all my buddies just to chill and I guess my buddy liked her also and blocked my game hard. I wanna know what you guys do when it happens to ya?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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aint much of a buddy is he?

did he know you were into her before him?
 
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I wouldnt worry about it if its a girl you two have just met. Bottom line is that both are trying to get her and if he succeeds before you, you gotta give it to him. after all is all about "bros before hoes."
 
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I wouldnt worry about it if its a girl you two have just met. Bottom line is that both are trying to get her and if he succeeds before you, you gotta give it to him. after all is all about "bros before hoes."
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f*ck that. the guy met her first, he brought her out to the fireworks where she met his friends. it's obvious that he's trying to get with her, his friend should know the line and not cross it.

"bros before hos" is the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

not every guy is a bro, and not every girl is a ho. if your buddy is c0ckblocking you, he's not your friend, he's your competitor. not only that, if he's trying to c0ckblock you on a girl you opened, then he's a mooch with no game as well. either find new friends, or hang out with him in environments you two wont compete for women in.

real friends don't salt your game, they elevate it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
f*ck that. the guy met her first, he brought her out to the fireworks where she met his friends. it's obvious that he's trying to get with her, his friend should know the line and not cross it.

"bros before hos" is the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

not every guy is a bro, and not every girl is a ho. if your buddy is c0ckblocking you, he's not your friend, he's your competitor. not only that, if he's trying to c0ckblock you on a girl you opened, then he's a mooch with no game as well. either find new friends, or hang out with him in environments you two wont compete for women in.

real friends don't salt your game, they elevate it.
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I dont agree with any of this except that not every guy is a bro and not every girl is a ho although the latter is questionable. Your friends need to get laid too, and unless a girl that youve been dating for a while or a gf is involved, its fair game for me, him or anyone else. Also i wouldnt worry about it bc i know i have better game than most of my friends, and if you do have a good game you also wouldnt worry if he does end up completly **** blocking you, bc girls are just that and theres plenty of pvssy to go around for everyone.

If im at a bar or something and a friend comes along and tries to ****block me but has no game, I know ill just crush him, but if another friend comes along and hes the best DJ in the world and he does end up with the girl at the end of the night im not going to hold it against him...Itll just enocurage me to get better.
 
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Your friends need to get laid too, and unless a girl that youve been dating for a while or a gf is involved, its fair game for me, him or anyone else.
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Yes, it's called throwing the dog a bone. Of course your friends need to get laid. I've winged for my boys, hooked some of them up with female friends, and I've even hooked one up with an ex.

However, there is a difference between "needing to get laid" and straight up salting my game. If my friend wants to hook up with a girl I just started gaming cause he needs to get laid, the respectful thing to do here is ASK ME first, instead of competing with me OVER A WOMAN (bros over hos as you kids call it.).

If my friend sees me gaming a girl and he thinks he has a shot too and wants to take it, and comes up to me and says "hey man, would it be cool if you could let me have this one? i think i have a shot, but i don't wanna put a girl between us, so if you don't it's cool", then I'll give him a shot and even try to help him. Why? Because he came to me like a friend, with respect, and asked. That's what real boys do, they work with you, instead of against you.

Also i wouldnt worry about it bc i know i have better game than most of my friends, and if you do have a good game you also wouldnt worry if he does end up completly **** blocking you, bc girls are just that and theres plenty of pvssy to go around for everyone.
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You totally contradict yourself. First you tell me it's "bros over hos" and now you are telling me that it's "may the guy with best game win". Pick a stance.

Whether you have better game, or your friend does, IS IRRELAVANT. Being bros is not about who has the most game, but rather about respect.

A real friend will work with you, and will help you out. If he needs something that you have, he'll ask you for it, instead of trying to take it. And you better do the same.

A backstabber will work with you when it suits him, and he'll stab you in the back when it doesn't. He'll help you out if it suits his own personal interests. If he needs something that you have, he will f*ck you over and take it.

Just like you have to be picky about the women you date (whether she's a ho or a girl worth LTRing), you have to be picky about who your best friends are.

I repeat, real friends don't salt your game, they elevate it. If your friends are backstabbing you over something as trivial as pvssy, you should get some real friends first, before you do anything else.
 
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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
You totally contradict yourself. First you tell me it's "bros over hos" and now you are telling me that it's "may the guy with best game win". Pick a stance.
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No im not contradicting myself. Yes is all about the guy with the best game winning and the concept of bros over hoes makes it all good, theres nothing contradicting about that. Girls are just a game, is just competing. when youre trying to mack your friend is going to be on the opposing team....like if youre playing one on one youre not going to be like "hey bud can i cross you over and then slam it on your face" of course not....and when the game is over is going to be all good.
 
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No, when you mack, your friend is on YOUR TEAM, that's why he's your friend, and not another guy in that club. The OPPOSING TEAM is other guys in the club that want p*ssy. If you want to challenge your game, you go solo, and that way it's you competing vs every other guy in that place. When you go with friends, it's to work as a team and make sure everyone gets laid.

If you want to play a game with your boys where you compete with each other for the same girl just to see who has better game, that's cool as long as everyone is aware that the game is being played.

But if you just go to a club, see your bro gaming a b!tch, walk up to them, and start c0ckblocking him and he's not aware of a competitive game being played, don't be surprised if you lose a friend. And few groups of friends play games like this together. The main poster in this case was obviously playing a game with his boy, and his friend just c0ckblocked him. The things you do in your dog-eat-dog circle of friends do not apply to other circles man.

Also man, saying you have better game then your friends and that if they try to do anything "you'll crush them" sounds like talk to me. If you had better game then your boys, you'd be opening your own girls, instead of trying to mooch theirs. Sounds to me like it's your boys who have the strong game.

And I'm not gonna bother arguing this anymore, since it's obvious I'm talking to a wall. If you think hanging out with someone who you know is gonna screw you over is friendship, then do whatever makes you happy man.
 
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Some guys are just natural haters and they wonder why their buddies don't want to work girls with them. MindOverMatter at least you got everything needed to be said out while you were talking to the wall. All very good points.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Originally posted by undesputable
If im at a bar or something and a friend comes along and tries to ****block me but has no game, I know ill just crush him, but if another friend comes along and hes the best DJ in the world and he does end up with the girl at the end of the night im not going to hold it against him...Itll just enocurage me to get better.
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Im done arguing over this too, but you misunderstood this part...im not saying that if i see a friend im going to ****block him and crush him...Im saying that if I was with a girl and some friend or whoever comes and tries to ****block me but he doesnt have much game ill be the one that will end up winning. you complelty misunderstood that part
 
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