"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Alright I havnt been on here in a really long time but now I am back in the swing of things to everyone who doesnt know me my name is tom.

Anyhow I got a hottie that I met and took her out to fireworks with all my buddies just to chill and I guess my buddy liked her also and blocked my game hard. I wanna know what you guys do when it happens to ya?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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aint much of a buddy is he?

did he know you were into her before him?
 
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I wouldnt worry about it if its a girl you two have just met. Bottom line is that both are trying to get her and if he succeeds before you, you gotta give it to him. after all is all about "bros before hoes."
 
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I wouldnt worry about it if its a girl you two have just met. Bottom line is that both are trying to get her and if he succeeds before you, you gotta give it to him. after all is all about "bros before hoes."
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f*ck that. the guy met her first, he brought her out to the fireworks where she met his friends. it's obvious that he's trying to get with her, his friend should know the line and not cross it.

"bros before hos" is the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

not every guy is a bro, and not every girl is a ho. if your buddy is c0ckblocking you, he's not your friend, he's your competitor. not only that, if he's trying to c0ckblock you on a girl you opened, then he's a mooch with no game as well. either find new friends, or hang out with him in environments you two wont compete for women in.

real friends don't salt your game, they elevate it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
f*ck that. the guy met her first, he brought her out to the fireworks where she met his friends. it's obvious that he's trying to get with her, his friend should know the line and not cross it.

"bros before hos" is the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

not every guy is a bro, and not every girl is a ho. if your buddy is c0ckblocking you, he's not your friend, he's your competitor. not only that, if he's trying to c0ckblock you on a girl you opened, then he's a mooch with no game as well. either find new friends, or hang out with him in environments you two wont compete for women in.

real friends don't salt your game, they elevate it.
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I dont agree with any of this except that not every guy is a bro and not every girl is a ho although the latter is questionable. Your friends need to get laid too, and unless a girl that youve been dating for a while or a gf is involved, its fair game for me, him or anyone else. Also i wouldnt worry about it bc i know i have better game than most of my friends, and if you do have a good game you also wouldnt worry if he does end up completly **** blocking you, bc girls are just that and theres plenty of pvssy to go around for everyone.

If im at a bar or something and a friend comes along and tries to ****block me but has no game, I know ill just crush him, but if another friend comes along and hes the best DJ in the world and he does end up with the girl at the end of the night im not going to hold it against him...Itll just enocurage me to get better.
 
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Your friends need to get laid too, and unless a girl that youve been dating for a while or a gf is involved, its fair game for me, him or anyone else.
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Yes, it's called throwing the dog a bone. Of course your friends need to get laid. I've winged for my boys, hooked some of them up with female friends, and I've even hooked one up with an ex.

However, there is a difference between "needing to get laid" and straight up salting my game. If my friend wants to hook up with a girl I just started gaming cause he needs to get laid, the respectful thing to do here is ASK ME first, instead of competing with me OVER A WOMAN (bros over hos as you kids call it.).

If my friend sees me gaming a girl and he thinks he has a shot too and wants to take it, and comes up to me and says "hey man, would it be cool if you could let me have this one? i think i have a shot, but i don't wanna put a girl between us, so if you don't it's cool", then I'll give him a shot and even try to help him. Why? Because he came to me like a friend, with respect, and asked. That's what real boys do, they work with you, instead of against you.

Also i wouldnt worry about it bc i know i have better game than most of my friends, and if you do have a good game you also wouldnt worry if he does end up completly **** blocking you, bc girls are just that and theres plenty of pvssy to go around for everyone.
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You totally contradict yourself. First you tell me it's "bros over hos" and now you are telling me that it's "may the guy with best game win". Pick a stance.

Whether you have better game, or your friend does, IS IRRELAVANT. Being bros is not about who has the most game, but rather about respect.

A real friend will work with you, and will help you out. If he needs something that you have, he'll ask you for it, instead of trying to take it. And you better do the same.

A backstabber will work with you when it suits him, and he'll stab you in the back when it doesn't. He'll help you out if it suits his own personal interests. If he needs something that you have, he will f*ck you over and take it.

Just like you have to be picky about the women you date (whether she's a ho or a girl worth LTRing), you have to be picky about who your best friends are.

I repeat, real friends don't salt your game, they elevate it. If your friends are backstabbing you over something as trivial as pvssy, you should get some real friends first, before you do anything else.
 
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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
You totally contradict yourself. First you tell me it's "bros over hos" and now you are telling me that it's "may the guy with best game win". Pick a stance.
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No im not contradicting myself. Yes is all about the guy with the best game winning and the concept of bros over hoes makes it all good, theres nothing contradicting about that. Girls are just a game, is just competing. when youre trying to mack your friend is going to be on the opposing team....like if youre playing one on one youre not going to be like "hey bud can i cross you over and then slam it on your face" of course not....and when the game is over is going to be all good.
 
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No, when you mack, your friend is on YOUR TEAM, that's why he's your friend, and not another guy in that club. The OPPOSING TEAM is other guys in the club that want p*ssy. If you want to challenge your game, you go solo, and that way it's you competing vs every other guy in that place. When you go with friends, it's to work as a team and make sure everyone gets laid.

If you want to play a game with your boys where you compete with each other for the same girl just to see who has better game, that's cool as long as everyone is aware that the game is being played.

But if you just go to a club, see your bro gaming a b!tch, walk up to them, and start c0ckblocking him and he's not aware of a competitive game being played, don't be surprised if you lose a friend. And few groups of friends play games like this together. The main poster in this case was obviously playing a game with his boy, and his friend just c0ckblocked him. The things you do in your dog-eat-dog circle of friends do not apply to other circles man.

Also man, saying you have better game then your friends and that if they try to do anything "you'll crush them" sounds like talk to me. If you had better game then your boys, you'd be opening your own girls, instead of trying to mooch theirs. Sounds to me like it's your boys who have the strong game.

And I'm not gonna bother arguing this anymore, since it's obvious I'm talking to a wall. If you think hanging out with someone who you know is gonna screw you over is friendship, then do whatever makes you happy man.
 
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Some guys are just natural haters and they wonder why their buddies don't want to work girls with them. MindOverMatter at least you got everything needed to be said out while you were talking to the wall. All very good points.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by undesputable
If im at a bar or something and a friend comes along and tries to ****block me but has no game, I know ill just crush him, but if another friend comes along and hes the best DJ in the world and he does end up with the girl at the end of the night im not going to hold it against him...Itll just enocurage me to get better.
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Im done arguing over this too, but you misunderstood this part...im not saying that if i see a friend im going to ****block him and crush him...Im saying that if I was with a girl and some friend or whoever comes and tries to ****block me but he doesnt have much game ill be the one that will end up winning. you complelty misunderstood that part
 
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