"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Bring up the Ex-Boyfriend?

ARrocket

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So this girl I met last semester (we're in college) had a boyfriend, but we had great chemistry and flirted a lot. She was my dance partner in tango class, so we saw each other a few times a week. She's asked me to hang out a few times, but we never really met up outside of class. Now, I see that she is listed as single on Facebook. I'm gonna have lunch with her at her dorm on Thursday (I'm have a class basically next door). Should I bring up her ex at all? As in "so, how are things with your boyfriend?" Because the last time I saw her she was dating this guy, and so it would be natural for me to think she still is. Or is it better to not mention it, and to proceed as if she has been single this whole time? Sorry if this is a bit wordy, but any advice would be appreciated!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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TheCzar

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My question would be, why does it matter? Let her give up the information on her own accord if she wants. It's kind of a loaded question - it's going to firstly flag 'high interest', and secondly has the potential to bring up emotions for her ex-bf if that's the case. Keep the conversation light, no relationship talk.

Sometimes when I think of a question like that I'm thinking of asking, I think what if she asked me that?

TC
 

2crudedudes

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I read or heard somewhere once that you need to help her associate you with having a good time. If you bring up painful events (as break ups can sometimes be) she'll associate you with those painful emotions. Try to stay on positive subjects and practice kino to indicate you don't wanna get friend-zoned.
 

katatonia

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Don't bring up her ex at all, just be a more attractive guy to her and she will most likely forget about him on her own.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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jnice48146

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Yeah, asking about her love life in the past sounds like an express lane to the friend zone. If a girl brings that up on a date, I'd tell her I'm not the person to tell that to.
 
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