Boys in Australia to be taught "emotional intelligence" at school

[Captain Harlock]

Private boys schools are a bunch of bullcrap anyway. Those spoiled brats need to learn to keep their arrogance in check.

 

[jophil28]

Private boys schools are a bunch of bullcrap anyway. Those spoiled brats need to learn to keep their arrogance in check.

Hmmm, you might be talking about me there, Hans :moon:

 

[jophil28]

Ultimately, the unspoken assumption is that males need to be 'fixed'.
That is what I find offensive .

How likely is it that a private girls school would come out with a program to reduce or eliminate female cunning, manipulation and excessive emotionality ?

 

[Son of anarchy]

Oh cool so once those guys will be tamed and sissified,they will start complain that there are no more real men and go find some in some other country.

 

[mrRuckus]

EQ simply means your ability to feel/understand/empathize with other people, and read their emotional ques.

So it's just a way of conditioning us to accept more and more socialism that they're shoving down our throats.

Free medical insurance paid out of my pocket for everyone else.
Pity for single moms.
Pity for poor people who can do something about their situation and don't.
Pity for fat people who can't live healthful.

I don't want to "understand" or "empathize" with people's plights for the most part. I get their plights. I just don't care since most people dig their own graves.


There's no use teaching rich kids this stuff. It's the poor running around committing violent crimes mostly. Little rich kid FruFru is just getting in trouble for dumb crap like hazing. Too infrequent to care about.

Being too understanding is when you get taken advantage of. Women excel at this.

Teach them to be men... not how to care too damn much about people and things that SHOULD be looked down on.

 

[ducaro]

Relax

For the first time I have this feeling that a lot of respectable men out here on sosuave are women bashing elements. Somehow 'Emotional' has been associated with the word 'weak'; and we have always associated women to be weak. See the correlation?

Emotional strength on the other hand is overlooked. Think about the **** you guys have been through in life...whether it be with women or anything else for that matter. Think about the times you have dealt with situations with a ton of maturity and power; not letting life beat you. Mind you - emotional intelligence has a lot A LOT to do with brains than being soft, mushy and weak voiced. You can be a great powerful man; yet be in touch with your sensitive side when required. It is doing the right thing when you are in disagreement with another person. It is simply managing your emotions. Anger is an emotion. How often would you guys think you manage it well? Happiness is emotional. How often would you give yourself a 9/10 on your general level of happienss?

Remember some of you have children and nieces and so forth - The better equipped you are with your emotions; the better will they learn to manage their own. I also agree with somebody over here who mentioned that our parents are responsible for the 'emotional teaching'. Agreed! But where does it start? My dad is capable of killing anybody who hurts his cat. Am I going to be depending on HIM to teach me emotional intelligence? Hell yeah! - If I fancy the prison gates as the first thing I want to see every morning! This is only one eg; I don't need to go into the rest.

I think Emotional Intelligence is apt provided the curriculum is not out of some real hyper sensitive cult movement. I believe it will undo the damage we have already created as 'Men'. Lets face it - if you think women are *****s today - think about the role we as men have played so far to induce that behavior in them. Women learn from us. By being an exmaple and leading the way - its a win-win situation guys. They will be back in our control. Somehow women think we as guys are not emotional and they use that as our weakness. So emotional intelligence can be what you think it is. Besides all that education; those little boys will learn from life has to throw at them.

Now you can flame me if you like - but please understand what emotional intelliegence really means - it really means growing a pair of balls and dealing with things like a human being. Google 'Amygdala hijack'

 

[jophil28]

The problem with these trendy programs is twofold.
Too often they become a truimph of words over substance, and secondly they frequently attract the social engineers in the role of 'facilitators' who are convinced that the world urgently needs THEIR personal evangelical philosophy.
These programs tend to degenerate into faddish mushy farty nonsense.

IT does make sense to teach young men how to solve their future real world conflicts and how to negotiate the best outcomes for both sides, BUT I suspect that this EI program will morph into some feminised touchy feely drivel designed to 'fix' young males who do not need to be fixed in the first place.

 

[IronStar]

Just out of curiosity, in an educational setting, does the school "grade" the student in "EQ" ? How does he pass or fail?

Sounds like an obtuse question, but when I went to school, I went to learn. I did stuff. If I was good at football, I made the soccer team. If I did my maths homework, and understood, and demonstrated that understanding under examination conditions, I passed or failed.

There was an objective measure of my success (or lack thereof).

As for socialisation, I was left to my own devices. Made some friends, made some enemies but mostly people were indifferent to me. I made my own mistakes, and learnt from them. It was only when I stepped out of line that the school intervened (& only then if they found out )

I'm more curious than anything has to how "EQ" can be taught. Most people learn this by example, they react, s1t happens, they learn (hopefully) by trial and error. I know what I should do & how I should react when a woman dumps me, but when it happens I'm going to get p1ssed off. Its how I handle myself & my own reaction that counts.

It strikes me as a papering over the cracks exercise, the question is surely why kids have to be taught "EQ" in the first place, when they should be learning it through their family & their peers by example, not from a textbook.

 

[Unbridled_Phoenix]

We don't need no state castration, we don't need no man control

 

[Luthor Rex]

We don't need no state castration, we don't need no man control

Hey, social engineer, leave those kids alone

 

[ketostix]

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These new age fads crept into the public school system here about twenty many ago. The promoters lauded the programs with all the flowery hype that we get down here from third rate leftist psych types.
They promised more social and gender equity, however they ultimately delivered a contaminated and feminised social education system in which boys were punished for even mild expressions of masculinity and girls were rewarded for being bratty little baitches.

Feminist ideology at work masquerading as "fairness".

I totally agree. This is absolutely feminist/anti male ideology at work masquerading as "fairness" and benefical for males. There's no question in my mind that these "educators" will in practice cause males more emotional harm. They will teach them to be consumate AFCs. Their solution is part of the problem. The problem with males is femniism and how women are now priviliged and never wrong.

 

[jafyk]

Don't make excuses for them. Learning to check your emotions is something you learn at home.

Dang! Warrior sometimes you come across as so closed minded. Personally, I think a lot of problems we have stem from people not being in touch with themselves (that would also include male-male and male-female relationships). Your attitude towards this EQ idea is one of such. You say people can learn this stuff at home right? Did you figure out all you needed to know about women and dating at home? hence sosuave and similar sites and books. I feel the EQ idea is good but your fears that such a noble idea might be perveted is understandable. Still when one is thought something one still has a choice to apply what they've been taught. In the end they are informed about something. After learning so much from sosuave if I was in the education system. I'd require them to have a dating class. Because everything we do as human beings deals with relationship and these are important things you don't learn at home.

 

[jafyk]

Just out of curiosity, in an educational setting, does the school "grade" the student in "EQ" ? How does he pass or fail?

Sounds like an obtuse question, but when I went to school, I went to learn. I did stuff. If I was good at football, I made the soccer team. If I did my maths homework, and understood, and demonstrated that understanding under examination conditions, I passed or failed.

There was an objective measure of my success (or lack thereof).

As for socialisation, I was left to my own devices. Made some friends, made some enemies but mostly people were indifferent to me. I made my own mistakes, and learnt from them. It was only when I stepped out of line that the school intervened (& only then if they found out )

I'm more curious than anything has to how "EQ" can be taught. Most people learn this by example, they react, s1t happens, they learn (hopefully) by trial and error. I know what I should do & how I should react when a woman dumps me, but when it happens I'm going to get p1ssed off. Its how I handle myself & my own reaction that counts.

It strikes me as a papering over the cracks exercise, the question is surely why kids have to be taught "EQ" in the first place, when they should be learning it through their family & their peers by example, not from a textbook.

If you learned everything at home why are you here on sosuave? Why do you read books like the DJ's bible or Mystery method etc? Because everything is not learned at home. Parents mean well and often teach the wrong thing. Sometimes parents don't talk about stuff with you. I remember a time in my life when I thought that if things were not working out with a girl the best thing to do would be to write more poetry and call and try to do more stuff for her. If I had known a lot of what I now know from Sosuave I'd have handled it differently. I was thought in school we came from Apes. Do I believe that? No. I wrote it to pass my exams etc. People can be taught things and they can compare it to other things they learn through life experiences. Ever wondered why a man can be successful in the society yet fail in his relationship? I'm not seeing success in a relationship as being able to score with different HBs cos it's more to that.

 

[squirrels]

"Emotional Intelligence" is an oxymoron. Just another term women fabricate to make it look like they're not stupid.

"Oh, women aren't as smart as men generally, but they have 'emotional intelligence'". Please.

I don't know why women make excuses for themselves instead of using the gifts they naturally DO have.

 

[Unbridled_Phoenix]

All in all, it was all just a snip of the balls

 

[jophil28]

"Emotional Intelligence" is an oxymoron. Just another term women fabricate to make it look like they're not stupid.

"Oh, women aren't as smart as men generally, but they have 'emotional intelligence'". Please.

I don't know why women make excuses for themselves instead of using the gifts they naturally DO have.

Exactly,
Ahh, Squirrels has a way with words.

 

[Warrior74]

Dang! Warrior sometimes you come across as so closed minded. Personally, I think a lot of problems we have stem from people not being in touch with themselves (that would also include male-male and male-female relationships). Your attitude towards this EQ idea is one of such. You say people can learn this stuff at home right? Did you figure out all you needed to know about women and dating at home? hence sosuave and similar sites and books. I feel the EQ idea is good but your fears that such a noble idea might be perveted is understandable. Still when one is thought something one still has a choice to apply what they've been taught. In the end they are informed about something. After learning so much from sosuave if I was in the education system. I'd require them to have a dating class. Because everything we do as human beings deals with relationship and these are important things you don't learn at home.

I said learning to check your emotions. If that's what emotional eq is. If you are out in the street running over folks because you have the emotional control of a woman, who's problem is that? Yours. School shouldn't have to teach you not to be a little bytch, or turn you into one. Christ are the schools suppose to teach you how to wipe your ass too?

Remember you can be so open minded that your fvcking brain falls out. You gotta draw a line somewhere. I draw it here.

 

[Captain Harlock]

"Emotional Intelligence" is an oxymoron. Just another term women fabricate to make it look like they're not stupid.

"Oh, women aren't as smart as men generally, but they have 'emotional intelligence'". Please.

I don't know why women make excuses for themselves instead of using the gifts they naturally DO have.

so being social is the same as having a high intelligence? or vice versa?