Analyzeit
Senior Don Juan
Just lets get this straight its okay to mack on chicks with boyfriends isn't it?? unless they bigger then you lol
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Roy
Don Juan
And how would you feel if your girl was being gamed by a lad who was bigger than you?
Have some respect bro...
Have some respect bro...
While it may or may not affect your decision to do it or not, I tend to stay away from girls with boyfriends. I have spent a night with a girl before without knowing she had a boyfriend only to have her dump him the next day. I didn't do anything on purpose and it still felt pretty bad to take her from someone who actually cared about her.
There's plenty of attractive single fish in the sea mate, I'm sure you can be happy with a few of those.
There's plenty of attractive single fish in the sea mate, I'm sure you can be happy with a few of those.
The_Scotman
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yeah i wouldnt get with a girl who had a boyfriend, itd jsut be wrong, bad rep, and hell wat if the guy knows karate or somethin
Analyzeit
Senior Don Juan
Yeah but lets me honest you guys must use "stay away" and "have some respect" pretty loosely i mean if a 8 or 9 is interested or not gonna say know, and i mean i would never to it to a mate and i would never do it just to piss him off, but honestly do you really care!?!
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Five To One
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It just depends on how much you respect him.
How do you know how much you shoudl respect him? By how much his girl respects him.
If she is flirting with you and giving you IOI's she doesnt have much respect for the guy, and neither should you.
How do you know how much you shoudl respect him? By how much his girl respects him.
If she is flirting with you and giving you IOI's she doesnt have much respect for the guy, and neither should you.
Unless you are getting alot of IOI'S and interest, I would say no. If she isn't really interested then don't try to pursure. As a general rule I try not to get with any chicks that have boyfriends, out of respect. My first girlfriend cheated on me, and I know how it feels to be the AFC sitting there.
If anything I would just try to get her to break up with him.
If anything I would just try to get her to break up with him.
Even at that, I have some friends who can kick his ass if he wants to touch me... I doubt he's going to start a fight with you just for that.Analyzeit said:Just lets get this straight its okay to mack on chicks with boyfriends isn't it?? unless they bigger then you lol
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id be pretty pissed if i saw some guy trying to game my girl at a party. even if the guy was bigger. reminds me of a couple weeks ago when my girl got extremely drunk at a party and some bigger guy went up behind her and tried to feel her up and tried to game her. i walked over to the kid told him to back the **** off my girl or hed get his *** kicked and he walked away.. i was shocked cuz im pretty sure the guy couldve kicked my ***.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Juice09
Don Juan
My thoughts exactly.Dimehair said:The problem is, if she has a boyfriend but is still interested in you anyway, she's probably interested in other guys too. I'm not saying to game the girl, I'm just saying she WILL find someone else soon.
There is that whole issue of "would you like a guy flirting with your girl?", but I think, in this mating game, it should only matter if you know the guy personally.
I.A.F.Y.B.
Master Don Juan
The only time you do not mack on a girl who has a boyfriend. Is if it is your friend. Other than that, its game on.
6'4" 210 guy here.
You and I would do more than a little bit of man talking if I caught you being inappropriate with a girl of mine.
the problem with some of this advice is that guys are evolutionarily wired to assume interest. simple friendliness can make you assume that she's flirting, and can lead to a crossed wire. then you risk getting your as$ beat. there's always someone stronger than you just waiting for you to piss him off. i say dont take the unnecessary, as$hole-y risk. just find another girl. if she tells you she doesnt have a boyfriend and then it turns out she did, then its not on you. but if you know, then you shouldnt do it.
You and I would do more than a little bit of man talking if I caught you being inappropriate with a girl of mine.
the problem with some of this advice is that guys are evolutionarily wired to assume interest. simple friendliness can make you assume that she's flirting, and can lead to a crossed wire. then you risk getting your as$ beat. there's always someone stronger than you just waiting for you to piss him off. i say dont take the unnecessary, as$hole-y risk. just find another girl. if she tells you she doesnt have a boyfriend and then it turns out she did, then its not on you. but if you know, then you shouldnt do it.
Analyzeit
Senior Don Juan
lol there is really a lot of mixed opinions on the topic, I think I'm just gonna back off a little on chicks with boyfriends
So they come to me a lot more then I go To them, simple really I'm just gonna make hell sure there interest before i do anything, i think its the best way to go
So they come to me a lot more then I go To them, simple really I'm just gonna make hell sure there interest before i do anything, i think its the best way to go
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
It's probably a bit of a personal preference here. Some guys view flirting with girls with boyfriends disrespectful (to me it depends on who the boyfriend is), others are scared of getting beaten up, and others just don't like to, and other do like to.
Personally, I flirt with them (unless they're boyfriend is a friend of mine), and if they start back and show interested, I go ahead. It's their boyfriends' fault he isn't keeping his girl interested,
Personally, I flirt with them (unless they're boyfriend is a friend of mine), and if they start back and show interested, I go ahead. It's their boyfriends' fault he isn't keeping his girl interested,