"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Boot Camp Query!

malliotjaune

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Ok as a dumb ass noobie (and i'm aware that, this being a forum my mere posting here wil incur wrath beyond my imaginings. Fupp it.) I got a query about the boot camp process.

Now, I downloaded and began it yesterday and went out this very morning with the intention of ten eye contacts and ten eye contacts with "hello" (or something approximating it. Give a little local flavour, you know?)

Ok, mission accomplished. And I feel better already. Even in terms of other things, like all those cycling challenges I've been having problems with (i'm a racer and my downhill riding sucks) I have renewed energy and will to succeed in them. So thanks for that guys.

But here's my query. If I hold a door open for a lady (like at the paper shop this morning.) and THEN make eye contact, does it count? I only ask as I provoked it....

Cheers

Malliotjaune.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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lol... answering as a newbie also, I've been applying this with my own rules. I've been making myself be as honest as possible with this.

If I feel as if I'm cheating myself, I discount it.

Perhaps i'm making it too hard with my own limitations, but I've gotten the 50 (in roughly two nights out), and had a great laugh. I've decided to apply a target of 30 a night until I'm completely comfortable to with the idea while everything else is going on.

Hope my answer helps somewhat.
 

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Cheers lads.


I too am applying the "feels like cheating? Is" rule and being mighty strict with myself.

As i say, i'm aiming for fifty eye contacts and fifty "hi's" this week. Just to normalize it basically.

I'm finding the eye contact thing great fun. It's amazing the lengths some people will go to to avoid it! The talking thing is tougher, i often find myself mumbling. I think the thing to remember is that it's not the response that counts just doing it. I can't effect other peoples reactions.

Anyway, one day (nearly) down and i'm on 16 eye contacts and 5 "hi's"

What say we use this thread to keep each other straight?

Malliotjaune
 

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For myself, my favourite is approach a group of women, stop in front of them and say "hi" to all of them, in an unhurried manner, smile and walk away. There... I got 4 "hi"'s and i've lost some of my fear of groups aswell.

I'm also not including those that can't move away; waitresses, barstaff etc. UNLESS, I'm really attracted to them. Then i'm getting over my fears still. (BTW i'm only using this on women since they're who i'm nervous approaching)

Have fun with it. I know its a lesson, but take the piss a bit. Have a friend with you, and its more fun. Combining the lesson makes it more interesting also, and gives you more structure.

What say we use this thread to keep each other straight?
I like the sound of that. Always nice to know someone else has the same doubts sometimes.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Well, this concious improvment of confidence is really working nicely!

Two days after reading week one of boot camp and i'm up to 23 of my 50 eye contacts for the week and 11 of my 50 "hi's" The way I figure it is once i hit 50 eye contacts i'll have to start really forcing myself to say hello, thus normalising it, thus... Job Done!

Interesting thing today, I was out training on the bike and met two pretty female cyclists coming the other way, said him carried on going. Saw them again at the end of the loop round the lake (they had done 5 miles to my 8 taking the point we met as a start) one of them shouted "Hi again! You must be fast" Normally i would have leapt at the chance to go talk to them,

However, I was out to train, not to flirt! So i called back "you know it!" and continued with my workout. I won't win many races next summer stopping to talk to women!

I think this shows me starting to take a degree of control and realising that things happen on my terms now!
 
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