Boot Camp Journal

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This is where I will be keeping my Boot Camp journal. I'm 21, I live in Montreal and I'm a student.

So far I've said hi to about 15 people, and stopped two 6s on the street, asked their names, and asked for directions I didn't need. It was educational :- ) Neither lasted two minutes.

Oh, but I did chat up a secretary for about 5 minutes - I started the conversation by asking if she was Scottish (she was German :- P) and went from there. I could have gotten the number, but I still have a lot of work to do in that department. My problem with communication, one I have to work on, is making stupid small talk and relaxing enough to make it all seem more natural (though I'm pretty good at that). I will also need to work on making more meaningful eye contact and using my expression to make a connection before a single word is spoken. When my gut says to go up and say something stupid, I should just do it. Until tomorrow,

Izza

 

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Just a quick note:

Today was an okay day - went shopping around town but didn't really do much in the BC department. I said hi to about 4 people, all of whom looked surprised - not that I care.

But the really good news is that I went to a friend's party with the sole aim of starting as many cold conversations as I could. I choked here and there - there were conversations I wanted to start but didn't. Choking is unacceptable, my goal is to be able to start a conversation with anyone, anywhere, at any time. But I owned that party otherwise, I met lots of people.

It's funny though, that every person who goes out and starts conversations with women will gain a method for doing so and swear by it due to their success. But the means to success almost don't matter as long as you strut up and say whatever the f*** you want like you're the hottest sh** in this hemisphere. What else matters?

Women should feel lucky to receive my weakest game. Right? Right.

One of my strong points as a DJ is that I know that I'm a great, funny person that's going to make some girl very lucky someday (I date women for the LTRs, and eventually for marriage) One of my weak points is that I used to hate the dating game, and still do to some degree.

BC thus far has given me a lot more confidence, and it has taught me through experience not to give a flying cucumber what people think about you. It's been a lot of fun so far, numbers still await :- )

Izza

 

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Week 1 Complete

Hey everyone,

Week one is complete.

The goal for week one wasn't just to say hello to 50 people - the goal was also to make solid eye contact, to say hellos that made me uncomfortable - basically, to feel comfortable approaching and greeting any HB I saw in the street.

I got all 50 hellos, and I mostly accomplished my goal. I need more practice greeting groups, and 9s - and the tone of my voice when I say 'hello' could be a lot more DJ.

But I'm starting to feel like a DJ when I walk around town and I'm starting to develop an instinct and a deep interest in people, two things I had but that I foolishly discarded during my last LTR.

Speaking of things I've discarded, I realized today that I was scared to become attracted to women -and scared to do something about it. It sounds stupid, but I just had no idea that I had become such a chump. Unbelievable if you think about it, eh?

By the way, running is awesome, it makes me feel so wonderful. Speaking of exercise, I had better run tonight - ugh so full.

Anyway, to all you BCers and rAFCs, best of luck - you'll hear from me soon.

Izza

 

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Mid-week 2

Hi everyone,

Here's a mid-week report.

I have 7 rather short conversations, only women so far, and two more days to get the last four. I haven't number closed on any of them, but I should have on one of them.

1. A girl was in line behind me wearing the most ridiculous boots I'd ever seen. They were the thickest fur - so I told her I liked them, then mocked the crap out of them. She was hot with a sexy accent - but those boots were real fur (and she still considers herself an animal lover, wtf?). Weird but educational, I was cut short walking to the cash.
2. In the swimming pool - I told her I was a landlubber. Then I started dancing around. It worked.
3. Another girl I just happened to be sitting next to. She was boring and in linguistics, but I kept it interesting somehow for 5 whole minutes.
4. A cute quebecoise lawyer, of all things. I started the conversation asking her if women in France are hot - she says she has a lot of French friends. I talked to her for a while, should have number closed.
5. As I was jogging I got to talking to a woman going to work as a nurse. She was a bit older, but she tells me that she works all night, then celebrates with a joint. I told her that if I ever get sick, I want her as my nurse - she was cool.
6. I was walking along and I said hello to some girl on the street, and got to talking about the book she bought. Never did ask her name, that's important.
7. Some guy waiting for an elevator, I just said hello and found out a bit about him. I still need to practice turning the conversation to others, but I wanted to get some practice on guys too. Talking to guys out of the blue is sometimes more difficult than talking to girls, interestingly.

Three more to go before Thursday night. Damn this **** is exhausting, it's really hard to think of stuff to say all the time, and to be witty ALL the time. Peace everyone,

Izza

Work on: Getting the name. Turning the conversation to the other person, getting the other person rolling about themselves.

Improved: much better sense of people's moods and inclination. I've developed far more interest in people.

 

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A thought

Can you believe how many people don't say hi back, when you say hello? It's unbelievably rude. I'm just shocked that people have no politesse whatsoever, they're just so absorbed in their own lives and problems, they can't say a little hello?

For those out there doing BC, if someone doesn't say hello back, call them on it. It's had good results for me so far :- )

Izza

 

[kel]

Good work so far! Just deciding to do the BC is the biggest step there is so congrats on that! Keep up the good work, and start closing some of these girls, eh!?

Also I agree; starting conversations with guys IS harder. With girls, its almost like the fact that you could be trying to get with her is working in your favor! With guys its much more like "what do you want?".

Anyway, good luck in the future and keep posting!

 

[duke007]

You called someone on not saying Hi back to you? lol. What happened?

I agree that people are rude...but that just shows you are superior.

You're doing great so far with the convos - no harsh freezeouts or awkward situations. You must be a decent conversationalist

 

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Week 2 Complete

Hey, thanks kel and duke. I'm ok in conversation, I'm working on being a mystery, sometimes people get offended when I refuse to talk about myself!

Haha, this one girl didn't say hi back (a lot don't) and I was like "can I get a hello?!" She was like "I don't know you." I was like "I don't know you." When she said hello I walked away. It felt great. I should have just walked up and been like "my name is David, you know me now." If I'd gotten that number, that would have been worth mad extra credit hehe.

After I got 7 I was feeling really anti-social and didn't want to approach anyone. But then I told myself this is boot camp, it's not supposed to be easy. Go out and enjoy other people.

For 8. I talked to some guy in the grocery store about what to buy. I made it to about two minutes.
9. When I was standing in line I told this cute girl behind me that I feel exposed buying groceries. Why, she asked. I told her I feel like everyone can see my groceries and judge me or some sh**, she started mocking the crap out of my groceries. It was so money, I got her name, good conversation, good jokes. But I left because I didn't want to stand there and wait for her to pay and then get her number. I shoulda just stood there and mocked her and then gotten her number on the way out. Oh well, it was still key. My roommate says I should have said "I liked talking to you, what's your number?" I still prefer "hey bebe, have you ever eaten an onion off a guy's navel?" but I suppose both work.
10. I was playing piano talking to the women around, and I recognized a girl from one of my classes so I was like yo, we started talking about whatever, her paper for that class - I left that topic as quickly as humanly possible. I mocked her outfit, and her left-wing environmentalism lol. Long story short she invited me to some party she's having tomorrow, and I would normally pretend to be busy but it's a pirate themed party (?) - a bit odd perhaps, but I ****ing love pirates!! I got her number; that is money in the bank, my friends.

This week women started smiling and saying hello to me without any effort on my part (esp. when I'm in a bad mood for some reason - it's all about the smoldering look.) I was getting solid eye contact, the type that makes the both of you want to run back and tear each other's clothes off. Sweet.

Week 2 complete, on to week 3. Best of luck to everyone out there,

Izza

 

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Improved and to Improve

To Improve: Getting the name, turning the conversation to the person. Being comfortable knowing that I'm trying to pick this girl up. I've got to start greeting groups.

Improved: Attitude is now bursting out of every oriface, I'm far more mysterious, and light-hearted. I'm starting to just walk up and just say what's on my mind.

 

[ATribeCalledDS]

holy...another montrealer. where do you you live? oh and btw, keep working on youre DJ skills!

 

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Week 3, Day 2

Cheers TribeDS, Montreal sure has more than its fair share of hot women.

I went to the pirate party last night that the girl invited me to. When I showed up I found out the girl lived with some guy. Ok, maybe they're in the friend zone, I thought. A few minutes later, the guy gave her a kiss on the head - maybe they're just REALLY friendly I said. The next minute they started making out lol. Anyway, I didn't care - my primary goal was to meet all of her hot friends and generally be the life of the party.

Earlier in the day I had gone on a tour with some people and I chatted one girl up a bit - on the way to the party I also pointed out to another chick how cold it was and began convo from there. So I already had two convos by 10:30 when I showed up. At the party, I knew about four people, but I made it my goal to meet everyone. I approached everyone I saw - usually with some sort of pirate joke hahaha. Avast ye matey, thar be some booty!

I tell you the truth, I was on fire. I approached hot girl after hot girl, group after group with the best jokes, the best conversation I've ever had. And you know what? Every single one of them introduced me to their bfs LOL. But I felt good about the convos - I approached three mixed groups, one of 5, two of 4, had them all laughing their asses off. I isolated the hot women (girls with bfs haha), and I cold approached some groups of two, and some individuals.

Theoretically, I probably finished week 3 yesterday alone. I brought my weakest game for the two hottest - that was disappointing, one of which I was talking to and I just walked off for no reason. She was the last convo of the night though and I was tired - no excuse, of course. I've got to bring my strongest conversational skills all the way to the end, because you never know when that single 10 will arrive!

So I theoretically finished BC (or got within one or two), but I'm going to make myself get 5 more convos this week anyway, esp cold approaches, and esp on HB8-9s.

So I felt a bit bummed out at all the predestined failure - all that hard work and no #s - but I was walking home and I realized that I had met not only every chick, but just about every guy at that party too. Some of them would not stop talking to me, even when I was trying to go pick up more women, haha. Not only was it a good step in the alpha male direction, but I would rather roll the dice and found out a HB is taken than never know at all. All night I worked my ass off making up conversation, neg-hitting HB after HB and I had nothing to show for it - but I could hardly have cared less. No number in my pocket would have made Montreal's snow-covered boulevards any more beautiful. (That probably sounds lame, but I don't care :- P)

Today, I ran into a girl I'd been acquainted with for a while - chatted her up a bit and got her number. We'll see what happens with that. She's cute, but probably out of her mind and not worth anything serious. No other convos today, take care all.

IZZA

 

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Fun

Gentlemen,

Somehow I forgot to have fun meeting people - with all my concentration on techniques and, as some call it, philosophies, and perfecting the art of meeting people, it's easy to forget how to just enjoy meeting another fascinating human being.

No convos today, but that will change tomorrow. :- )

Living life should be as much fun as writing 'f's (I love writing 'f's for some reason). Just tonight's thought.

Izza

 

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BC has its low moments

Today was frustrating, but it had a real bright spot.

I went running in the morning and saw some gorgeous girl just standing there. Every inch of my body said go say hello (I'm thinking especially of a certain 17-inch member of my body), but I just couldn't do it. Times like those are so frustrating and it was like that all day - I just couldn't approach anyone, the two cuties in the library, girl from choir, the smokin' hot British girl making a fool out of herself doing an acting class who clearly liked me. But it's a funny thing, I was walking around and I looked this girl right in the eyes, and she smiled at me and we walked by. She wasn't gorgeous or anything, but she wasn't bad and that smile made my day so much better. That sort of thing is so powerful because it sticks in your mind all day. It make the world seem so friendly for a while.

Smiling like that is so key, I need to work on being more uppity or something because I'm sure smiling has that effect on HBs!

Days filled with chokes open your eyes to the number of opportunities you pass up every single day out of fear or excuses. Any approach makes you feel better than sitting on your arse. Thus, tomorrow, come hell or high water, I'm just going to walk up to women I find interesting and attractive. I don't care if I have NOTHING to say, NOTHING at all, and I don't care if they're looking the other way, or if other people are nearby. They matter less than me becoming the kind of person I want to be.

You know, these posts are always longer than they have to be because summarizing and figuring out what I want to say takes so much time. Pascal once wrote "I'm sorry to have written such a long letter, but I didn't have time to write you a short one."

Izza

 

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Week 3 Complete

Wow, so that was week 3.

I basically finished on Friday, as I said earlier, but I made it my goal to get 5 more conversations. I got one on Monday, but I honestly don't remember how. I was getting really pissed off by Tuesday because I was letting all these opportunities slip by. I didn't say hi to people who gave good EC, and I didn't converse with people who said hi back, I didn't ask for numbers for those who did converse back. I wasn't risking failure, and damn it, if I want to approach whoever I want, I just need to lug myself over to whoever I want and roll the dice.

Tuesday was better though, I was getting mad at my chumpness hehe, so I cold approached this girl in the stacks out of nowhere and had some boring conversation with her ("what are you researching?" - ooog). I was really distracted or something, but I cold approached this chick in the street too, walking the same direction as me. (Are you coming from somewhere boring or somewhere fun?) That was cool and she was hot.

Tonight I went to some party and cold approached a group ("Are you ****ing in management too?" people in management can be so boring), I was losing my voice though so that was a bit lame because they could not hear me.

And this smokin' hot chick I know walked out of a bar as I was walking home - I only realized after that I should have hit up her number.

Oh well, week 4 is here! Now is the time to ask women for numbers - to take the risk, to improve myself. This is the hardest part of Boot Camp but I'm not worried. It doesn't matter if a woman says yes or no when I ask for a number.

I want to talk to whoever I want, whenever I want, in any situation - be it surrounded by friends or enemies, rain, snow or sleet (or all of the above)- and still ask for that number. That is who I want to be, that is what I want to become natural. Thus, when that number request leaves my lips, long before it ever reaches her ears, or the number my hand, I will have already succeeded. Good luck all,

Izza

 

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Week 4 - not even begun

Epiphany of sorts.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68101

So I don't think any rejections counted. I'm such a chicken hahahaha, I just couldn't ask for a number to someone I barely knew to their face. I got a couple numbers of women I knew from before, but no rejections. I didn't feel ready though, so I spent the week getting 9 conversations and saying hello to every HB I saw.

I'm also developing a 6th sense for how to approach women. I'm saying hello to every HB I see, and most importantly, I've realized that women just don't MATTER! That's the best part, there are just 1000 more important things to do and think about than women. For me, that's one of the best effects this website has had on me. I worry so much less about women because I just greet the ones I see. I spend my time living life.

I can't believe I'm afraid to walk up to a girl, make stupid small talk, and ask for the digits. I guess the real connection I just can't believe it's harder to find rejections than phone numbers, @#$%^&*! Cold approaches are so hard to pull off.

David/Izza

 

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WTF, week 4

Yo,

I'm still on week 4 but a great thing happened today. I had my first GREAT cold approach. Some girl was sitting nearby shuffling through like a million papers and I just said excuse me and asked what on earth she was doing hahaha. The conversation went great, but that negative f***er in my head told me "she doesn't like you, she probably has a bf."

I didn't ask for the number, but you know what? I will never let an opportunity like that slide again, so I'm glad it happened. If I see her again, I'll just ask - anything to get off the fence. Next time I see her, I'm going to say "hey, good to see you. What's your number?" And hand her a piece of paper with a pen.

Haha, it can't possibly fail.

Izza

 

[librito]

great job bro, one of those days youll become a great DJ. keep it going.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

Great Job! Keep up the good work. That damn inner voice will wobble the sturdiest of knees

 

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Detachment

Thanks, cheers guys.

I realized yesterday that I was attached to so many things that I had to let go of. It was a strange feeling; I looked at hot women and realized that their hotness made me want them, and want to attach myself to them. And attachment is just the about the worst emotion to feel towards women. I honestly believe some chicks can smell it a mile away.

So I was walking home detached, thinking to myself "screw women man, why the **** do they matter." I turn around, and some girl walking starts hitting on ME. LOL

She starts telling me stuff about her, filling in gaps when I had nothing to say, she walked a block past her house and just stood there waiting for me to ask for her number. I wasn't too interested so I didn't ask, but I think I should have. I wouldn't have called her though. But oh man talk about irony - when you want women you can't touch them, but when you don't, you'd best grab a stick and start swinging.

Izza

 

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Make the ho say no.

Golden words.

Izza