I have read all of these. They are good. The models book is exceptional and well written.Mystery Method
Book of Pook
Models
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I have read all of these. They are good. The models book is exceptional and well written.Mystery Method
Book of Pook
Models
I felt the same about 48 laws. It is a good book but seems too vague a lot of the time."Influence", by Robert Cialdini. It highlights six marketing techniques, but it's really about human psychology - you can apply it just as well to hanging out with friends, dating, etc.
About Robert Greene's books like the 48 Laws of Power, I'm reading them now; I see the valid points, but I wish it was more concrete with practical lessons. It seems a bit like reading fortune-cookies. Maybe I'm just not clever enough. For example, Law #16 tells you "scarcity increases value". In the Rational Male, he says something like "don't be available to see her on weekends if she's not a solid plate". To me the second is more useful, as I don't always see how Greene's laws are supposed to play out in terms of concrete actions.
Only read models of these,but yes,good read.The best books make you think (which is always a good thing) wether you agree with their premise or notI have read all of these. They are good. The models book is exceptional and well written.
Same here for TRM and 48 Laws.For me "the rational male", "how to win friends and influence people" and "48 laws of power" have been the most profound. What about you guys? Any recommendations?
Just now put that book in my Amazon cart. Thx for the advice. Sounds like a good read.That was around a decade ago.
That book is all about letting go of your preconceived notions. About everything.
I ended up a fvcking beast.
For better or worse, depending who you ask.
TBH that book is a little sappy but has some good exercises.No more Mr Nice Guy
Yeah I think I see what you mean. I am not sure if this due to the author's actual point of view or because he wanted to please the publisher by writing it that way.TBH that book is a little sappy but has some good exercises.
What I will say is thank god Amazon suggested The Rational Male as an additional purchase when I bought No More Mr Nice Guy.
NMMNG was a nice amuse-bouche to TRM. Bezos got it right on that one
The game intro to pickup, MM, AWAKEN the giant, gendernomics, book of numbers, total recall, talents overrated, outlier, 11/22/63.For me "the rational male", "how to win friends and influence people" and "48 laws of power" have been the most profound. What about you guys? Any recommendations?
Game is good too. Red pill piss me off because of the way they trash rooshv. I don't think he was ever epic at game but I appreciate the contributions made.Bang and Day Bang influenced my approach and early stage dating styles
I didn't like Game as much as Bang and Day Bang because by the time I read Game, I had been practicing game for years. Game is good for the level in which it was written. Game was written for novices who were not familar with the Manosphere writings of 2010-2017. By the time Game was released, I had already been doing no soy products, no processed foods, no porn, and no masturbation. Roosh did discuss no porn and no masturbation in those books.Game is good too. Red pill piss me off because of the way they trash rooshv. I don't think he was ever epic at game but I appreciate the contributions made.
That first book is super outdated, the first chapter he talks about dualing with swords. Plenty of books these days that are more relevant for current circumstances.Socially?
How to win friends and influence people
Women?
The book of Pook
They both emphasize just not caring and do what you want in social interactions.
It's more or less about paying respect to the OG mystery and those that put it all forward. I think Strauss is a cuck and a con man shill. First to the market. I find myself annoyed with the red pill using Rooshv as a punching bag. Trashing a dude who is going his way. I took value in the following. As for the game, it introduced me to mystery, pickup, rsd, and so on. I never did routine btw. It was cool to see the framework though. Before that was Doc love and the system lulz.I didn't like Game as much as Bang and Day Bang because by the time I read Game, I had been practicing game for years. Game is good for the level in which it was written. Game was written for novices who were not familar with the Manosphere writings of 2010-2017. By the time Game was released, I had already been doing no soy products, no processed foods, no porn, and no masturbation. Roosh did discuss no porn and no masturbation in those books.
Which is why nobody should be trashing him especially without their infields and receipts.Roosh changed a lot. He was a valuable contributor to pickup and game for many years.
I found useful mixing both being ideal. I can approach indirect but from a man to woman. There's no point of approaching from the perspective she's unsure of whether he will take it out lulz. It's funny that it's mostly dated content now but it had been ground breaking at one time or another.Roosh was more of an advocate of indirect game at non-bar venues whereas others have advocated for direct game in non-bar venues. Indirect vs direct is a good debate and I've never actually settled on which one is better. Both can be effective. You won't get kicked out of grocery stores and malls for going indirect, though you could get kicked out for going direct.
Only read "How to Win Friends..." and listened to 48 laws (as well as popular psyche "Think And Grow Rich"), sure they may have "added" to my meshed memory of or subconscious interworkings of mine mind having read/listened to them, but for me, exploring stories of the natural world or learning ethology or about our bizarre place we were born into, history, and development or evolving through time, helps allow me to think on my feet in social interaction. There are clowns who may be able to be a better or total circus monkey to "entertain" Both sexes in a social scenario (for me, at least 5 days a week I'm thrown in to the midst of one on one, two on one, three on one, four on one, or a whole team of familiars vs me, a sole agent, and I have to bend and swerve to keep the peace and/or handle with kid gloves or be serious or keep it "light" or no politics/religion or be non-controversial in speech when I'd rather be biting or grating against their mellow or smooth-brains).For me "the rational male", "how to win friends and influence people" and "48 laws of power" have been the most profound. What about you guys? Any recommendations?