"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Read more...

body language and 'signals'

locrian

Don Juan
Joined
Apr 28, 2000
Messages
180
Reaction score
1
Location
philadelphia, pa, usa
Ok, we all know by now the basics of body language, the 'kiss test' etc. My question for you is: how much weight do you give to reading someone's body language and interpreting their signals when it comes time to make your move?

I had a girl over one evening recently (haven't done anything yet with her), we had a great time (just conversating) and I was planning on kissing her and getting that ball rolling, but got a few negative signals and decided to bail on my plan. I've never been turned down when I make my move for the physical stuff, but that's usually because I wait until the signals are strong until I go for it.

In your opinion, is it better to use what you know to read someone and act on that, or to just go for it every time and accept whatever happens? Or is this more a matter of personal style? I like interpreting peoples' signals, but don't want to read too much into things and short-change myself.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Dirtheart

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 18, 2004
Messages
952
Reaction score
1
Age
49
Location
UK
Personally, I always go on signals before making a move as I'm actually very accurate at reading them. From your post, it sounds like your attention to signals have been accurate too, so I'd suggest you continue to trust them. Negative signals could be low IL, but they could also indicate bad timing.

The best test I know of is to step into her personal space while talking to her. Stay there for a while and if she steps back or edges away, then bail. If she remains where she is and looks at you as you are talking, there's a good chance you can make your move without scaring her off.
 
Top