"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Body Hair, Bad?

Wasabi_Master

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I have chest hair and i got mixed responses from health websites about leaving it or shaving it off / wax. To the prospective of casual dating ofcourse.

any opinions?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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battle_sheep

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Just trim it man, no big deal, girls will appreciate it

You can get pretty much the same results from trimming with an electric buzzer as you would with a razor
 

blinkwatt101

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battle_sheep said:
You can get pretty much the same results from trimming with an electric buzzer as you would with a razor
Lol dude I used an electric razor to shave my chest hair...no way it's as clean as with a real razor but it still is clean and neat looking.
 

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Shaving body hair is an INSTANT way to look leaner. I always shave everything before shows/stagettes... Of course girls kind of except us to look a certain way though. Plus I'm a hairy dude. I look like a member of the taliban when I don't shave my face for a couple of weeks!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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thedude4242

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dont shave your legs, and it you dont have a bunch of hair on your arms then dont shave them, too much unneeded maintance for arms.
 

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The only thing I shave is my face, and lately I have just been growing the beard. Depends on how hairy you are, and how much you care.

Some dudes are crazy hairy, so trimming might be appropriate.
 

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Stomach hair makes you look fatter.

I was worried i'd somehow gotten fat because i got lazy for a while about taking care of the chest hair. I shaved it all off and i was like oh i'm still the same.

The first time i shaved it off, i had no idea how in shape i'd gotten. I was shocked. It was the first time i could really see the musculature of my pecs and such. My hair hides my abs too.

Women ***** either way. If you have facial stubble they say you look good, but then they ***** when they kiss you. Your shaved chest hair is "itchy" to them, but they still like the look.

You can't win so do what you want.
 

Drewskie

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Anything about hair growing back faster or thicker is a myth. A hair follicle is a hair follicle, it grows at the same speed and rate no matter what. As far as if you shoyld shave. A lot of girls like a chest hair, bt if it's on your back or shoulders, get out the clippers.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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mikeyb

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Shaving body hair is too time-consuming. For me anyway. I've never had a date complain about hair although my ex often suggested I shave what she referred to as "that bush on your chest".
 

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I always shave my chest, but that does cause my nipples to go hard for a few days. Anyone else have that issue? I am thinking it has something to do with the smoothness of the skin around the nipple area. I have been applying ample amounts of lotion over my chest before going out hoping that it would help with things. Still the same hard nipples though.
 

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I urge you NOT to wax your chest. The pain is unbearable and the amount of in-growns and bleeding you get really kills any aesthetic effect. Just trim it down and it'll look fine.
 

020204

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Shaving your body will definetly improve your aesthetics, particularly if you are in shape. It maybe time consuming, it will most certainly give you a leg up on the competition.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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ENIGMA16

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Wish I could shave it; whenever I do I get a bunch of ingrowns when it grows back and it's really sharp. Sucks having really thick hair (and by thick I mean in terms of the hair follicle, not the density of hair on my chest; damn Persian roots haha).

I just opt with trimming. Girls seem to dig a bit of chest hair, anyways.
 

old married dude

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I pretty much shave everything with an electric trimmer.

Shaving makes you like quite a bit more defined/toned. It's a must for me being 1/2 Italian.
 

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Fuglydude said:
Shaving body hair is an INSTANT way to look leaner. I always shave everything before shows/stagettes... Of course girls kind of except us to look a certain way though. Plus I'm a hairy dude. I look like a member of the taliban when I don't shave my face for a couple of weeks!
truth. As someone who is part italian, I have to deal with a good amount of chest hair. I just shaved my chest it today and its amazing how much leaner/muscular I look even though nothing really changed since yesterday!

Not looking forward to the ingrowns though. Probably just going to go with what everyone else suggested and use an electric shaver. Any suggestions so it doesn't look like a total hack job?
 
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