"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ok not sure if this was a good thing or a bad thing. But this girl i have seen once before was at the gym with me, she comes in and sits down next to me on the bikes, she never never never rides the bike and says hey i will keep you company. SO we talk and i say so after this we will go head out and see whats going on... She turned bright red put her head down and had this goofy smile on her face and says i dont drink on weeknights ??? I laugh and say whatever and she looks up and says well i can go out for one or 2.... I laughed and went on with my workout, on my way out i stop and she looks at me and says i really dont drink on weeknights i said look i didnt say anything about drinking tonight and shes says ohhh yeah i will head out then.... Now im confused was the whole blushing thing and smile a sign of interest... when before she sat on the bike she walked bye and ran her hand across my back... now im dripping sweat... Do you guys think she may have honestly had a hangup on the drinking part but is interested ?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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says hey i will keep you company
She turned bright red put her head down and had this goofy smile on her face and says i dont drink on weeknights
she looks up and says well i can go out for one or 2
before she sat on the bike she walked bye and ran her hand across my back
How many more signals will it take for you to get the picture? Could she be more obvious? In fact, give ME her number so I can ask her out for you.:D
 

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HAHA well everything seemed good until she got wishwashy on the drinking part... She did just call and say her and her friend will meet me at 9 for drinks...in the scheme of things is it a bad thing when she brings a friend... is this going to be a test and how do u not feel awkward when its the 2 of them and just me ???
 

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What an AFC :crackup:

She is obviously into you man :woo:


I use to pass up opportunities like that all the time! :mad: Dont do the same thing most of use have done b4.
 

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HAH im not going to pass it up.. im going out with her and her friend... I was just looking for advice on getting closer with her when she brings her friend along.. and what the meaning is behind that ?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Comfort.

Just continue being charming, funny, all that good stuff and you're in. It also wouldn't hurt to make a good impression on her friend, that can speed things up too.
 

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HAH im not going to pass it up.. im going out with her and her friend... I was just looking for advice on getting closer with her when she brings her friend along.. and what the meaning is behind that ?
believe it or not -- as long as the friend is NOT another dude, this is a pretty good thing. she wants the friend to be impressed -- but you will surely be evaluated, so make sure you deliver!
 

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Well things went well.... She told me before the night started that she was really tired and she apologized before hand, however mid way thru the night her friend says Dude your the hottest guy in this bar... .And the the girl im interested in said joking around oh yeah by far yeah.... there are alot of people in this bar im afraid to leave you, someone may try to pick u up....We both walked back to her car and before i could even make any effort towards a kiss close shes like gime a hug and then she proceeded to squeeze the hell out of me... Its 2 days out now and still no kiss close by me... She did mention she wanted to go to another city with me to go to the clubs and spend the night.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I meant its been 2 times out with this girl without kiss closing. I Mean hopefully next time we are solo and its alittle easier.
 

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Ok im alittle frustrated, i went out with that chick last Thursday like i said. I see her on Monday and shes really flighty, hardly smiling or anything still talking with me alittle bit ... figure shes pissed because i didnt show up on Saturday like i said i would. So i leave and dont say a word to her. Today im in the gym and she walks by gives me a smile and says hey you, walks in the locker room, comes out and rubs my back again and says whats new, i say not much how was work today... she doesnt give me an answer... she walks back into the locker room.... She comes out again rubs my back again as shes leaving and says see you later....Its frustrating because i cannot tell if she is playing a game or if all interest is lost ?
 

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She is clearly into you, but you are going to have to make your move soon, because if you don't you will lose her. It's one thing holding back because you are teasing and building anticipation, but fear and uncertainty are big turn offs to women and they can usually sense it!

She has given you enough signals and few guys get a second chance. This is one of those "now or never" situations. If can't find the right opportunity, then you must create it. Hell, just ask her if you can have a word with her in private, then when you're alone, slowly make your move and kiss her (it's worked for me in the past).
 

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She's giving you subtle signals that she likes you. Yeah, she's gaming you a little, but for a good reason. Go for it, man.

Good Luck:cool:
 

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Thanks guys... without all your insight i would have f'ed this thing up along long time ago. This is the first time in awhile that ive had a girl im def into playing any type of game.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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From my experience, whenever a girl asks YOU out, for any reason, she is into you. That's a very obvious sign, and is a green light for you to try to get closer to her.

Go out with her in private (as opposed to you, her, and her friend(s) ) and use your dj skills to make her yours. Enjoy!
 
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