"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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jaymbrs

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Long story short I went on a business trip to LA with coworkers coming from offices from around the nation. Started hitting it off with one of them and everything was going well until her ugly female friend decided she’s going to start hitting on me. Starts buying me drinks, making sexual innuendos throughout the entire night. When I tried to get the other girls info, she said she didn’t want to get involved with me since her friend likes me. I tried telling her that it wasn’t mutual and that i was interested in her. She didn’t care though.

On the spot I couldn’t think of something else to seal the deal. Any thoughts, ideas or pointers?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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You got an excuse instead of her number. Sounds like low interest and she was you letting you down gently.

I don't really know the exact circumstances, but you mentioned this a was a business trip. You may have thought you were hitting it off, but she may have thought she was simply having an engaging conversation with a coworker who ended up coming on too strong to her. Or perhaps she has a boyfriend. Or maybe she is loyal to her "ugly" friend if her "ugly" friend stated to her beforehand that she was going for you.

In any event, interest wasn't high enough in my opinion.
 

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You got an excuse instead of her number. Sounds like low interest and she was you letting you down gently.

I don't really know the exact circumstances, but you mentioned this a was a business trip. You may have thought you were hitting it off, but she may have thought she was simply having an engaging conversation with a coworker who ended up coming on too strong to her. Or perhaps she has a boyfriend. Or maybe she is loyal to her "ugly" friend if her "ugly" friend stated to her beforehand that she was going for you.

In any event, interest wasn't high enough in my opinion.
Grinding on my **** at the bar didn’t seem like low interest. I guess one just never knows what a woman is thinking.
 

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Grinding on my **** at the bar didn’t seem like low interest. I guess one just never knows what a woman is thinking.
Her giving you an excuse instead of her number does though.

Some girls are just looking for fun and attention and can grind on 20+ d!cks in one night and it won’t mean anything regarding interest.

Probably why a lot of guys on here will say the only true unmistakeable indicator of interest is if she’s fvcking you. Even then, a girl may not necessarily like you, and was just “interested” in sex at that particular moment in time and you were a convenient option.
 

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Long story short I went on a business trip to LA with coworkers coming from offices from around the nation. Started hitting it off with one of them and everything was going well until her ugly female friend decided she’s going to start hitting on me. Starts buying me drinks, making sexual innuendos throughout the entire night. When I tried to get the other girls info, she said she didn’t want to get involved with me since her friend likes me. I tried telling her that it wasn’t mutual and that i was interested in her. She didn’t care though.

On the spot I couldn’t think of something else to seal the deal. Any thoughts, ideas or pointers?
if she liked you she'd have been mad at her friend for not backing off of you, instead she said she wouldn't get involved to step on that girl's toes (read: that hot one doesn't like you but the other one does)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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if she liked you she'd have been mad at her friend for not backing off of you, instead she said she wouldn't get involved to step on that girl's toes (read: that hot one doesn't like you but the other one does)
Yea makes sense. Tough to accept when it seemed like progress was being made.
 
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