"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Blew it... with a model

sanoj

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This may sound like a little bit of bragging, but getting attention from women is what this forum is about, right?


Last weekend I was on a hot streak!

Thursday I got a one night stand with a real hottie!

Friday night and Saturday morning I finally slept with a girl i've been working on for a while now.

Saturday night my confidence was sky high as some of you may understand. I got kinda picky on giving signals to girls I normally would be crazy about a year ago, because I knew I could get the best looking ones in there.

Suddenly a stunner was texting on her cell phone in front of me, and I said hi to her. We talked and danced a little bit. I did'nt kiss her and I barely touched her and even though she ended up in my messy apartment for some "night food".

We ended up eating and talking for about an hour and then she went home. In other words: I was'nt man enough to get laid that night.

After she said she was a model I guess I subcounciously felt unsuperior and started negging her even though she was already in my apartment. I did'nt do much kino and was'nt aggressive enough, witch I regret, but there was definitely sexual tension going on. The next day I really felt like crap for not sealing the deal.

To my big surprise I met her at the university and it turns out that she is taking the same course as me! I approached her and we talked. She seemed a bit embarrased, but it seemed like she liked that i approached her and was interested in what I had to say.

I am afraid that I am going to be friend-zoned, because of my lack of sexual aggressiveness.

Where do I go from here? start kinoing her in class and asking her on a date?

I'll rather be rejected that being friend-zoned!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Listen kid,

Who in the HELL says you can't start the sexual ish in the dreaded "friend zone"??? You dudes are crybabies over meeting a girl once??? Who cares if she becomes a friend? She may have hot friends and if the sexual ish doesn't work with her try her friends and she may feel jealous you picked them over her!! Friends with benefits zone to BONE! If she says "let's just be friends" agree and say you didn't do it for me..I like my WOMEN more sensual and to show affection. Then tell her you hope she's not like a wet noodle with other dudes.............And stop your cryin for chrissakes! Damn. You got one get another!!
 

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You could try (very) subtly starting kino and escalating and see if that works.
 
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