Blackpill reality is female reality

[jhonny9546]

Being STATIC and exclusively "focusing on yourself" and hope that women will suddenly jump you is INHERENTLY FEMININE

This is actually exactly what happened when I started not only changing my appearance, but also my manners, my study of masculinity and my behavior.

I think I am still very much in this mode that you call "feminine" but I call "passive", even though I am actually actively working to get to this state. every day.

I am getting a lot of attention from women, they are the ones who tease, ask for things, tease.
So they are the ones who open the door for me to come in. I can tell they are waiting for me to make a "move". As I explained in another post, I am only doing this with those who I feel are not relationship material. To learn and to satisfy my needs (and theirs). I think I still don't have 2 fundamental pillars of my life, and this makes me feel a bit held back from dedicating myself to my active phase. I want to focus my efforts on career, finances and having a place of my own. After doing this, it will be my turn to move on to filtering and a more active phase.

I have never had a single example of a person that I consider truly mature who could have guided me in what is the "active" phase, and for this, in all honesty, I tell you that I am very lacking in this.
But I have the will to improve this aspect and I know very well that it is more of a change of "attitude" from passive to active.

can't read social cues

You hear about this a lot, but they never explain what it means.
You should give more real examples.

For example, I almost always understand when people are teasing me just to get information or when women want to tease you or want to be serious, but this does not mean that I will adapt my behavior to the situation, becoming a chameleon.
It undermines my stoic "sense of tranquility" that I have inside.

But if you can explain this thing better, with pragmatism, it would be useful for everyone

most women care about their status in their friend group,

However, there are men with mediocre to subpar social skills who are neurotypicals. I believe the neurotypicals with weaker social skills outnumber the autists

I hate socially skilled men who are because they use manipulation, masks, and other tactics.
And usually, you will see these men having the highest status in the group, in relationship with these women who also care about this.
I also believe it is true that like attracts like in this case, meaning if a person is looking for power, they will immediately agree on their "tactics", while someone more autistic, will end up in a relationship with a more autistic one

 

[zekko]

Over the past several years there has been a trend for men to seek out more feminized beauty routines such as facials, nail manicures, botox, moisturizers, risers in their shoes, etc. Its even been promoted here on this forum.

I've thought that it was so feminine of them. Women are't looking for another woman. They want a man, act accordingly. We've got the greatest population of feminized men that I have ever seen.

Yeah, I've even heard of some women being turned off because it took a guy some time to fix his hair. Some are really turned on by a Marine style crew cut that needs virtually no care whatsoever, and the guy can just get up and go get his business done without having to fuss with it. Because, as you note, it's the opposite of femininity, which is masculinity.

That said, I would not look good in a crew cut

 

[Pandora]

Women have a far higher bar for men's looks than vice versa.

I agree 100%. I will add that this is a recent phenomenon ( post online dating) and it is a first world phenomenon.

This ultra pickiness is artificial.

I will also add that American men set the bar too low. Go to anywhere else in the world ( maybe out of the UK) hot women actually have to compete for average men.

 

[CoolWave1331]

I agree 100%. I will add that this is a recent phenomenon ( post online dating) and it is a first world phenomenon.

This ultra pickiness is artificial.

I will also add that American men set the bar too low. Go to anywhere else in the world ( maybe out of the UK) hot women actually have to compete for average men.

Yes, is important. There some men really believe women don't care about men's appearance, women dishonestly repeat it too to gaslight guys...but we are not in the "believe what women say business", we are in the "watch what they do/respond to business". Men are "visual creatures", you've heard this before. This is propaganda. Women have eyes don't they? They value physical appearance in the same way.

Not much can be done about facial structure, so long as average and have no deformities etc it is not that big of a deal. The body is something have more control over and you can sculpt, yes, does make a difference. Muscles on a man is like a nice figure on a woman. Not only will women respond (have no choice, biologically programmed) but also does wonders for a man's self esteem. Say you set a reasonable goal to bench press 200 lbs - when you're able to accomplish this lift, you feel really good. You look back on all your hard work and the change(s) are obvious - not just appearance but shows in how you walk, talk etc. Guys will compliment "you look really cool".

It's not really too difficul to set yourself apart from average guy. The average guy wears like high socks with sandals, beer logo tshirt (with a nice little beer belly to go along), plays video games in free time. How you think comes across? Girls don't take these guys seriously.

 

[SW15]

I will also add that American men set the bar too low. Go to anywhere else in the world ( maybe out of the UK) hot women actually have to compete for average men.

Male competition in the USA is extremely intense for men. It's gotten more intense over the past 20 years. Even 20 years ago, there seemed to be a lot of competition out there. 20 years ago was before smartphones and social media. Dating websites were just getting de-stigmatized (no apps). The primary way people were meeting was nightlife venues if they weren't still in school.

Nightlife venues are a high competition environment and not an easy environment. Social media and swipe apps are even more difficult than nightlife venues.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

I agree 100%. I will add that this is a recent phenomenon ( post online dating) and it is a first world phenomenon.

This ultra pickiness is artificial.

I will also add that American men set the bar too low. Go to anywhere else in the world ( maybe out of the UK) hot women actually have to compete for average men.

What? Where do hot women have to compete for average men? That sounds unheard of.

I've noticed here in the UK the unattractive women tend to be very picky and stuck up whilst mode attractive ones are often the opposite. It's bizarre

 

[Pandora]

What? Where do hot women have to compete for average men? That sounds unheard of.

I've noticed here in the UK the unattractive women tend to be very picky and stuck up whilst mode attractive ones are often the opposite. It's bizarre

Russia. Armenia. Slavic nations. West Africa. Colombia. Some part of Canada and even small pockets of the USA.

Again brother I literally said the exception is the UK ( add Australia in there too).

My Russian friends have a joke. Russian women will joke that they dont want to go back to Russia because the competition is too high.

Western men are simps by force.

 

[SW15]

Where do hot women have to compete for average men? That sounds unheard of.

even small pockets of the USA.

I've never heard of it in the USA. Not sure where these small pockets would be in the USA. It isn't true in most major USA cities.

I've noticed here in the UK the unattractive women tend to be very picky and stuck up whilst mode attractive ones are often the opposite. It's bizarre

In the USA, nearly all women are super selective with their perceived abundance.

 

[Pandora]

I've never heard of it in the USA. Not sure where these small pockets would be in the USA. It isn't true in most major USA cities.



In the USA, nearly all women are super selective with their perceived abundance.

Okay you are right brother. I was trying to be generous.

Yes virtually all women in the USA are artificially ultra selective. Maybe in rural towns with a small population it might be slightly better??

 

[Pandora]

A long time ago I tried to start a seduction business.

After my first " client" I realized that many men are weird, dont have social skills and are not very motivated to improve.

These are the black pill guys. To be fair their lack of good looks created a negative feedback loop that destroyed their life.

We cant rag on these guys because they are competent in other things.

If you are one of the few men who have real charisma and decent looks consider yourself blessed.

Fitness, Finances and Females ( you gonna struggle in one or 2)

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

Russia. Armenia. Slavic nations. West Africa. Colombia. Some part of Canada and even small pockets of the USA.

Again brother I literally said the exception is the UK ( add Australia in there too).

My Russian friends have a joke. Russian women will joke that they dont want to go back to Russia because the competition is too high.

Western men are simps by force.

Wow, that's pretty crazy. Almost unheard of.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

I've never heard of it in the USA. Not sure where these small pockets would be in the USA. It isn't true in most major USA cities.



In the USA, nearly all women are super selective with their perceived abundance.

Same here in the UK.

 

[SW15]

virtually all women in the USA are artificially ultra selective. Maybe in rural towns with a small population it might be slightly better??

The biggest challenges men face in areas with a small population is a lack of selection. Areas with a small population are often pussie wastelands.

I have heard that women in areas in the USA with smaller populations tend to be somewhat more realistic on standards because they need to be.

There are not a lot of potential swipe app matches for people in less populated areas, especially if a larger city is not that close.

From the feedback that I've gotten, I have made the claim that an area needs a 200,000 population for it to be viable for sex/relationships for a man who is 25+ and isn't in college. When areas dip below the 200,000 population threshold, many men find that they are lacking for choices. They often find that they need to relocate.

Areas with smaller populations in the USA tend to be older now and more married people. Since Millennials started graduating high school circa 2000, a lot of smaller population areas lose younger people after they graduate from high school or college (if college is in a small town). Unmarried, working age individuals in their mid-20s to age 40 don't want to live in less populated areas because they will find it difficult to have sex and have relationships.

After my first " client" I realized that many men are weird, dont have social skills and are not very motivated to improve.

You seem to be describing a specific type of male. That male is very likely to be involuntary celibate (incel). Incel or even borderline incel males are known to be weird and lacking social skills. Many are not very motivated to improve.

Involuntarily celibate females are truly rare. It's extremely uncommon under menopause age. It's possible that a post menopausal, overweight to obese female is involuntarily celibate, but unlikely. After menopause, some women don't desire sex so if they aren't having sex, that's more of voluntary celibacy than involuntary celibacy.

The bigger challenge for women is commitment as compared to sex. A good portion of women desire commitment. What women tend to lack is committed sex.

Former red pill blogger Chateau Heartiste (aka Roissy) had a term for these women. Insols - involuntary solitude.

The female insol is able to get sex rather easily. She is unable to get a committed relationship for the most part. Occasionally, she will be in a shorter term relationship, but that's as far as it goes.

The female insol and the male incel are roughly analogous. However, the female insol is rarely a social outcast and usually has acceptable social skills. She usually fits in somewhat well in social situations. She tends to have more real life friends and acquaintances than a male incel. She might not see them as much in real life if she's in her 30s/40s because a lot of them will be busy with LTRs/marriages/families. However, she's generally more well liked due to her more proficient social skills. A female insol rarely stands out in a social setting whereas a male incel would likely stand out.

As an experiment, if a 30 year old female insol and a 30 year old male incel went to the same ****tail party, private residence party, or business networking event, it would be obvious how their social skills differ. These settings might be classified as general social gatherings and not necessarily mating events. The female insol would be making small talk with other women and mainly beta males (many married, depending on the context of the event). The male incel would often have awkward conversations with other attendees and possibly not be talking to anyone at a certain point.

 

[BeExcellent]

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I mean, if I've got to chase a woman, then that means she isn't interested.

Well because you refuse to pull up your big boy pants and initiate? Then you refuse your masculine birthright.

Don't come crying here when your bossy ballbuster chick who ain't all that is wearing the pants in your relationship. You wanted the feminine role, see above.

(Shrugs).

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

Well because you refuse to pull up your big boy pants and initiate? Then you refuse your masculine birthright.

Don't come crying here when your bossy ballbuster chick who ain't all that is wearing the pants in your relationship. You wanted the feminine role, see above.

(Shrugs).

But why would I want a woman who isn't attracted to me? Chasing is harassment and just means she doesn't like you.

 

[BeExcellent]

But why would I want a woman who isn't attracted to me? Chasing is harassment and just means she doesn't like you.

Facepalm.

Look. If a woman isn't interested in you she will decline when you ask her out. Simple.

But you still must ask her out.

The act of asking a woman for a date is not "chasing". It is acting like a man.

Women who are good women are not going to pursue a man. I didn't. Ever. My family taught me that you do NOT call boys. So that feels extremely unnatural and weird to me. Men show initiative and initiate. Men ask a woman out.

My GenZ daughters and the GenZ daughters of my friends act the same way. They were taught the same thing by us moms. They respond once a man asks them out. They do NOT chase boys. Its simply not what classy women do

Give her something to respond to. Lead for God's sake.

Look anywhere you like in the animal kingdom. Males are the more showy gender in many species, particularly birds. Why? To help the males in procuring a mate.

We refer to it in the PUA community as "peacocking" for a reason. Males wear fancy plumage and do a mating display. The females do not do that. Its not what nature designed. Humans are not that different in that men go out and find a mate. Women who are feminine respond.

If she says Yes then she likes you. If she shows up she likes you.

But you gotta give her something to say yes to; something to show up to. Something to respond to.

It isn't rocket science.

You wanna go against millions on years of biology? Good luck. See my previous post for the results, which you will not like.

Asking a girl out is not "chasing". If you think it is then you are terribly uncalibrated and are expecting women to behave in a developmentally unnatural way.

So it is no surprise that an army of eager hot girls is NOT blowing up your phone or chasing after you. That ain't how this works.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

Facepalm.

Look. If a woman isn't interested in you she will decline when you ask her out. Simple.

But you still must ask her out.

The act of asking a woman for a date is not "chasing". It is acting like a man.

Women who are good women are not going to pursue a man. I didn't. Ever. My family taught me that you do NOT call boys. So that feels extremely unnatural and weird to me. Men show initiative and initiate. Men ask a woman out.

My GenZ daughters and the GenZ daughters of my friends act the same way. They were taught the same thing by us moms. They respond once a man asks them out. They do NOT chase boys. Its simply not what classy women do

Give her something to respond to. Lead for God's sake.

Look anywhere you like in the animal kingdom. Males are the more showy gender in many species, particularly birds. Why? To help the males in procuring a mate.

We refer to it in the PUA community as "peacocking" for a reason. Males wear fancy plumage and do a mating display. The females do not do that. Its not what nature designed. Humans are not that different in that men go out and find a mate. Women who are feminine respond.

If she says Yes then she likes you. Of she shows up she likes you.

But you gotta give her something to say yes to; something to show up to. Something to respond to

It isn't rocket science.

You wanna go against millions on years of biology? Good luck. See my previous post for the results, which you will not like.

Asking a girl out is not "chasing". If you think it is then you are terribly uncalibrated and are expecting women to behave in a developmentally unnatural way.

So it is no surprise that an army of eager hot girls is NOT blowing up your phone or chasing after you. That ain't how this works.

Women fo after the men they want. If you need to put in a lot of effort, then she's likely unlikely. I've seen this and experienced it myself. That's why I next a woman as soon as I get any indication of lack of interest.

If women like you, they'll pursue you.

 

[BeExcellent]

Women fo after the men they want. If you need to put in a lot of effort, then she's likely unlikely. I've seen this and experienced it myself. That's why I next a woman as soon as I get any indication of lack of interest.

If women like you, they'll pursue you.

No. Women say yes to the men they are interested in. My husband asked me out. I said yes & showed up. He asked me out again, I said yes and showed up again and so on.

My husband initiated calls/texts/dates 100% early on. As the relationship developed he initiated calls/texts/dates roughly 80% of the time. I kept saying yes, showing up and responding in a warm, feminine way. Even now I rarely contact him first, but I always respond. It is a maculine/feminine dynamic. I do not smother him. Not at all. Therefore he is always drawn to me instead of wanting to escape me.

Why don't I chase, besides it being unnatural, masculine energy & weird?

A woman chasing you is disrespectful. You are a man. You are supposed to be busy doing "man stuff", you know work, hobbies, interests, work outs. Normal men I know really dislike being interrupted when they are doing "man stuff". My father and grandfathers, uncles and brother-in-laws are all this way. So is my husband. Men reach out when they think of the woman and have made time to contact her. Otherwise the woman, who is pursuing you, is ranking herself as your highest priority by interrupting you and your "man stuff" and pretty soon you'll stop answering and feel she is clingy and demanding.

You sound like a woman. Expecting chicks to chase you. Some will, and it WILL get old.

Good luck with that, lol.

 

[CheekyMonkey101]

No. Women say yes to the men they are interested in. My husband asked me out. I said yes & showed up. He asked me out again, I said yes and showed up again and so on.

My husband initiated calls/texts/dates 100% early on. As the relationship developed he inotiated calls/texts/dates 80% of the time. I kept saying yes, showing up and responding in a warm, feminine way.

Why don't I chase, besides it being unnatural, masculine energy & weird?

A woman chasing you is disrespectful. You are a man. You are supposed to be busy doing "man stuff", you know work, hobbies, interests, work outs. Normal men I know really dislike being interrupted when they are doing "man stuff". My father and grandfathers, uncles and brother-in-laws are all this way. So is my husband. Men reach out when they think of the woman and have made time to contact her. Otherwise the woman, who is pursuing you, is ranking herself as your highest priority by interrupting you and your "man stuff" and pretty soon you'll stop answering and feel she is clingy and demanding.

You sound like a woman. Expecting chicks to chase you. Some will, and it WILL get old.

Good luck with that, lol.

Nah, I'm good. I'll continue to date women who actually want me, rather than doing things like approaching women as it'll only lead to a guaranteed rejection and boosting her ego anyway

 

[BeExcellent]

Nah, I'm good. I'll continue to date women who actually want me, rather than doing things like approaching women as it'll only lead to a guaranteed rejection and boosting her ego anyway

Oh I want my husband dear. I have very high desire for him. Tarzan goes after Jane in the jungle dear. Not the other way around. But you keep going the lazy feminine energy route.

Hope it works out for you.

Cheers.