"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Black guys approaching white chicks

Chrom3y

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I just wanted to know how successful some of the black guys on this forum have been with the white girls. Im a guy who doesn't discriminate, if a girl is cute then thats all that matters. But I feel like when I talk to white girls they judge me because of how I speak. I know proper english but I feel so weird using it. Anyone wanna share some experience in this area?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Solomon

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Damn whats up with all these racial threads now, are you serious or no? I'll answer if you are
 

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Does being half black count?

Anyways, you are what you attract, meaning If you dress black and act black your most likely gonna attract black or ghetto white girls. If your weird, your gonna attract weird girls. This isn't always true though.

In my case, I act more white than black. So I get with white girls.

I've seen some white HB's into black guys, so don't put yourself down. Just make a good approach and be charismatic.
 

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Yes soloman...I am very serious. Dont be mad at me. Im a noob just trying to make changes...
 

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If you think your problem is the way you speak why u focus so much about being black?
Just improve your talking or your vocabulary,anyway as GlennCoCo told you,remember that if you talk like a rapper you'll get some girls into that style while if you talk like a normal man you'll get normal girls.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Solomon said:
Damn whats up with all these racial threads now, are you serious or no? I'll answer if you are
Exactly what I was thinking.

The first thought that came to my mind when I saw the title of this thread was,"Here we go again".

Nevertheless,to me,attraction is attraction. I think it was Rollo Tomassi who said that attraction/sexual chemistry isn't a negotiation between a man and a woman,it's spontaneous.

Attraction isn't something that's planned.

A white woman may not usually date black guys or any other men outside of her race,but if a guy does and says the right things that create chemistry in her,(imo) she'll throw him being a different race out the window.
Women are emotional. If you can create/stir one emotion in her,then you can create others.

A white man can make a white woman angry. A black man can make a white woman angry. If a black man can stir up anger in a white woman,then he can stir up passion in her too. And women follow their feeling/emotions.

We know how women are. They make decisions that are logically irrational,even to themselves sometimes.

A woman can say that she'd never date a black guy,then a black man could walk up to her,say some things that cause her attraction level to shoot through the roof,then the next thing you know,she's walking hand in hand with him. Someone who knew she said she'd never date a black guy can see her with him,then later on ask her why she's dating a black guy when she swore she'd never do that. Then as all women do,she'd rationalize it in some way.

To me,if you're having problems with dating white girls,it's NOT because you're black,it's because you're not doing the things necessary to cause attraction in her.
 

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Chrom3y said:
I just wanted to know how successful some of the black guys on this forum have been with the white girls. Im a guy who doesn't discriminate, if a girl is cute then thats all that matters. But I feel like when I talk to white girls they judge me because of how I speak. I know proper english but I feel so weird using it. Anyone wanna share some experience in this area?

As most of y'all know, I'm a black man, I live in a mostly white area, so hence typically that's what I run into the field. Since I, Solomon, started going out more and on this quest of improvement, My dealings with white females has improved drastically.

The thing is when you step up to a white chick, do you, don't worry about what she thinks, but don't come at her like one of those brothers who is like "yo yo yo, shorty let me holla at you" unless you at a hoodspot or something that shiit won't work. Obviosuly when you use proper grammer, supp'd up vocabulary, you sound more inteligent and that's with any female, coming at a lilly white girl at a semi-country club on some "yo yo ma, you know what this be right here, knamean? let me holla at chu, cause you we can pop dem things" ain't gonna work You can still have swagger when step up to them on some "Hey how you doing tonight? my name is Chro3my!"

It's all how you carry yourself knamean? I see some brothers at some mostly "white" clubs and they standing there trying to get girls of their "blackness" (posted up being hard) @ these spots that won't work, you gotta engage, be fun as I like to call being "that dude" when I dancee I just have fun.

Comfort/Building rapport

is so important when it comes to this, the more comfortable the chick feels with you the more relax'd she will be.

If you @ a hood spot, then it's still about "how you come at them" you gotta approach respectfull, you can still talk in "slang" but don't overdue it. As a brother in the field once told me, "Just do you"
 

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GlennCoCo said:
Does being half black count?

Anyways, you are what you attract, meaning If you dress black and act black your most likely gonna attract black or ghetto white girls. If your weird, your gonna attract weird girls. This isn't always true though.

In my case, I act more white than black. So I get with white girls.

I've seen some white HB's into black guys, so don't put yourself down. Just make a good approach and be charismatic.
what does 'acting white' or 'acting black' mean?
 

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Captain Harlock said:
what does 'acting white' or 'acting black' mean?
If you stand a black guy, who talks black, walks black, and attitude black. Next to a white guy who talks white, walks white, and his attitude is white. Your gonna see a difference.

It's not so much of acting, I just can't find a better word say.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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if you obsess over race it will become more of an issue for you... black does not have to mean ghetto. Be black but be sophisticated and smart with all people.. not all whites are intelligent so avoid the dumb ones just as you would avoid dumb black people..

Yes people will assume that cause you are black you will be ghetto but its very easy you kill that assumption (if you are not ghetto..lol).. many white will reject you cause you are black and they dont like black people,, thats life just move on to the next person.
 

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I appreciate all of the replies, especially Soloman's. I figured you'd be one of the first to reply, I remember reading in another post that you were black. So thanks...everyone that is. Just gotta sack up and be myself.
 

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I've been successful dating white girls as well as black and other races. I don't discriminate either. I'm black.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Craig Reeves said:
I've been successful dating white girls as well as black and other races. I don't discriminate either. I'm black.
Yea, but you live in Texas...
 

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Well if a white guy went up to white chicks and couldn't speak proper English, how far do you think he'd get? They'd think he was some retarded creep loser. What is this thread, affirmative action for dating white girls?
 

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Don't know how bad racial tension is in the US of A, but the UK, it's not so much about race but about social standing. Speaking like you are from the the 'ghetto' is going cause preconceived judgments, namely that you may want to shank them. Speaking like you're a graduate from top private school is going to create other ones, namely that you have ambition, education and probably a healthy bank account.

I'm not a racist (it's pretty damn hard for me to be one, my family has so many different bloodlines either directly through me, or married to relatives - my cousin is half-Indian for example). But I am an elitist and a social snob.

My friends that are not of my 'race' are to the last one, all intelligent, ambitious and articulate. But that is true of just about every Caucasian friend I have. The only exceptions is if there is a girlfriend/boyfriend of one of my friends who I wouldn't normally hang around with. And even then they are only a notch higher than acquittance.
 

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If you're looking to classify "black guy game", it just boils down to simple direct game with passive value maxed out. If you notice, at the very least bit, most black guys you see that go out dress pretty well and usually have a pretty nice car (perhaps I'm generalizing), and usually they'll post up in a certain spot and make direct approaches at girls that pass by.

It defies what it is conventional Mystery Method since it's all about showing interest upfront. In my experience, this requires a larger pool and is more of a shotgun method, though it can definitely be adapted to any other race and its not as if it ONLY applies to black men.

My Mentor Asian Playboy wrote about this not too long ago:

http://theasianplayboy.blogspot.com/2006/05/impact-approach-30-seconds-to-make-it.html
 

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Glad to see a lot of people replying to this, even if its not all "advice". And my english isnt ghetto or w/e. Its just not completely proper. Im making a big deal out of nothing though, I'll just use my eyes to get girls. They LOVE them. Just hard to think of something good after they compliment them.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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