"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Bizzare Situation with Couple in the Past

radiodude

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Alright, a post below I commented on made me think of this and I was going to post further there but the subject matter isn't right for the discussion.

This may take the expertise of the more aged men here (definately over 25).

My wife and I are friends with a couple we are going to hang out with again soon. Haven't seen them for a couple years. They recently moved back near us.

He and I have been friends since H.S. He met his now wife about 6 years ago. They've been togeather for 5. I met mine shortly after and I've been married to her for 3 years.

Fellas...

How do you determine if a couple like to swap? (swingers)

(bombshell) :nervous:

Okay heres why. In the past, there have been things his wife has indicated to me and one or two things he has said to me, way back, that make me suspicious and have also made me wonder about their intentions when we've hung out in the past.

His wife is extra flirtatious (or was previously with me for quite some time) at times and has indicated she 'liked' me when we first met. (all with a friendly smile and a giggle when she says it)

He (my friend) had experiences in college where he swapped partners with a couple different friends.

About 4 years ago on New Years eve we were at a hotel party, very exclusive, and his wife and I were talking out on a deck. We were talking about another couple we knew in our group of friends and she was explaining how this girl was dancing with her husband (my friend) and how she got mad about it. This happened several months before. She said she didn't like this girl and all.

In the same conversation she then mentioned that she and her husband (my friend) had discussed that if somehow one of us (being them, my wife and I or a third set of friends who we all know) ever ended up at home togeather with the others spouse, they wouldn't care b/c they like us and 'trust' us.

I wondered what I was hearing at first and just listened intently. She then went on to explain that if she saw my wife 'straddle' her husband it would be okay and wouldn't make her upset. But if she saw this other girl as discussed previously do it, she would be mad. ????? My wife said she told her the same thing and that she didn't understand what that was supposed to mean.

They later bought a home and we would come over to hang out. They would always try and get us to stay over for the night. We only lived 20 minutes away. They always had that welcome mat layed out though and never failed to ask or suggest.

An incident then occured, apparently, between them and the third OTHER couple above. There was a falling out. Apparently my friend in this third coupling wanted to watch her and his wife togeather while he and my other friend watched. :nervous:

I never would have pegged this third couple to do something like this. The first couple claim they were put off and scared by this. This was only after my wife and I asked them what was wrong between them. I've never gotten the story from my other buddy. They don't communicate much anymore. Just kind of ironic that i'm thinking the issues are coming from one place and then they supposedly come from another.

Here's what I think. I think these friends of ours are into this stuff and actually propositioned the other couple.

I just get a funny vibe from them. (her especially) and he also is the type that would seem to be into this.
 

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Go with your gut, I'd say swapping is a possiblity with them. They are dropping MORE than hints. Just don't know if it would be worth all the trouble it would cause in your marriage. Jealousy or not, even the chance your kids could look like him would drive you nuts.
 

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Dear radio Dude,
Having been there and done that,long time ago,I feel Sodbuster is quite right but I would be even more outspoken....London to a Brick it will be on if you want to go ahead with it....In the situation I was involved in we went to a Coastal property with another couple and did the dirty deed....Yeah lot of fun,but the other Lady put on such an amazing maniacal fit against her husband the next morning,that we never spoke again...Surprisingly her Marriage survived,and ours didn't...Risks are so great I urge caution,better go to a Harlot than chance it with your friends.
 

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This sounds great now, but the safe money sais it'll be weird after.
 

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It won't happen.

1st- My wife would never go for it.

2nd- We have a baby.

3rd- Not really comfortable with 'sharing' my wife. :nono:

It's wrong.

I know some people can do this and walk away from it like it was just fun, nothing more. But i know as much as the other woman may have that hot 'twisted sex' look to her (and she does), it's not worth it.

Interestingly he has never been overly flirtatious with my wife.

There was an incident in a bar parking lot after we'd been out one night where we were nice and 'sauced' and he and I were teasing our wives. He grabbed my wife around the neck jokingly and started dragging her away (I can't remember what we were laughing about) and immediately his wife walks over by me and proceeds to put her arm around me.

He then stopped what he was doing while we were all still laughing and things went back to normal. It was like a conditioned response from her.

Not something thats going to happen at all but it has always made me somewhat nervous.
 

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scrouds said:
Isn't this the stuff you do with FBs or chicks you don't care about?

Yes. Even then I can't imagine it's the easiest thing to do.
 
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