"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Trail Mix-A-Lot

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All,

So far I've been more of a lurker than a contributor. This forum continues to be a huge help as I move forward. Without getting into the boring details, more-or-less every female relationship I've had, including a marriage, has ended in disaster. The one common thread in all the failures has been AFC behavior and utter lack of confidence on my part. My most recent debacle really pulled the rug out from under me. I'm still recovering from it. It's taken every ounce determination I have to refrain from contacting this chick.

It's been amazing to see how changing my AFC habits have made an insane difference in all aspects of my life. You guys are dead right about everything. It is a little scary to start life at 38 though.

Thanks!

T.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Trail Mix-A-Lot said:
Without getting into the boring details, more-or-less every female relationship I've had, including a marriage, has ended in disaster. The one common thread in all the failures has been AFC behavior and utter lack of confidence on my part. My most recent debacle really pulled the rug out from under me. I'm still recovering from it.
Actually the details of your story are not boring, its what makes sosuave great because we can learn from each others mistakes. If you have the time to post all your story in great detail, it would be beneficial for everyone here to read and may also help you out too.
 

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DJDamage said:
Actually the details of your story are not boring, its what makes sosuave great because we can learn from each others mistakes. If you have the time to post all your story in great detail, it would be beneficial for everyone here to read and may also help you out too.
I agree. I love reading people's stories. I almost started a thread for this last week.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Trail Mix-A-Lot said:
All,

It is a little scary to start life at 38 though.

Thanks!

T.
Nah !
Mike - I started my conversion at 50 so you ,at 38, are 12 years ahaed of me.
Enjoy your new life and have fun with women.

BTW - do NOT contact that last disaster. Start over with a fresh one.
Perhaps some day, you will run into your most recent ex and you could 'game ' her. You need lots of practice before you could do that successfully .
Congrats on seeing the light...
 

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My exit from the matrix began when I was in my late 20's - early 30's, but even if i were just starting now at 36 it would be a positive step that would change my life for the better.

It's never too late. NEVER.
 

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STR8UP said:
My exit from the matrix began when I was in my late 20's - early 30's, but even if i were just starting now at 36 it would be a positive step that would change my life for the better.

It's never too late. NEVER.
When did you get started with business and investing STR8UP?
 

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When did you get started with business and investing STR8UP?
Early-mid 20's.

My transition from THAT matrix began earlier. It's possible that early realization about money helped me in my understanding of the other matrix, the one we speak of here.
 

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Trail,
Good on Ya, unplugging is just as hard as Officer school was to me.
Keep us posted. DO NOT GET AFC and take it from your last..A friend of mine told me today that he thought the reason I stayed in my last relationship was because I didn't BELIEVE I deserved better. So true...stupid, but true. So my advice...don't do it. You be the prize. Believe it. Become it.
KC
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Trail Mix-A-Lot said:
It's been amazing to see how changing my AFC habits have made an insane difference in all aspects of my life. You guys are dead right about everything. It is a little scary to start life at 38 though.
please please please, whatever you do, CHANGE your attitude that you are 'starting' life at 38. you aren't.

you are starting down a new path, but you would never have found this path if you hadn't gone down whatever path you had for the previous 38 years.

i know a lot of guys find it empowering to frame things as 'starting over', but i think thats a big mistake. they like to see it as cutting lose of their past - as though their past was a bad thing.

but your past is NEVER a bad thing. for better or worse, its what got you HERE. be thankful you had that past and that it lead you here.

life is an interesting journey, and most of it is spend lost and confused. many spend it so until their dying day.

so look back on your past with appreciation that it was an essential part of the journey. those years were not wasted, they were simply the first half of your journey.

now you're entering the second half of yoru journey - and from the sounds of it, it looks like the latter half is going to be quite interesting :)
 

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joekerr31 said:
please please please, whatever you do, CHANGE your attitude that you are 'starting' life at 38. you aren't.

you are starting down a new path, but you would never have found this path if you hadn't gone down whatever path you had for the previous 38 years.

i know a lot of guys find it empowering to frame things as 'starting over', but i think thats a big mistake. they like to see it as cutting lose of their past - as though their past was a bad thing.

but your past is NEVER a bad thing. for better or worse, its what got you HERE. be thankful you had that past and that it lead you here.

life is an interesting journey, and most of it is spend lost and confused. many spend it so until their dying day.

so look back on your past with appreciation that it was an essential part of the journey. those years were not wasted, they were simply the first half of your journey.

now you're entering the second half of yoru journey - and from the sounds of it, it looks like the latter half is going to be quite interesting :)
I agree with you Joe.

I'm a lot younger than him, but I used to be embarrassed of my past like that and thought of my AFC days as almost a completely different life. I never told anyone about them and used to try to not even think about them. My real name isn't even Mike, I just made created this handle because I didn't even want anyone on here to know what my real name was four years ago when I made the account.

I've since learned that frame isn't the correct one. I think about my past now and talk about it if someone asks. It's nice to know that my biggest issues are behind me.

At 38, that is still a comforting feeling/thought. You're not even halfway through life and you've solved or at least started solving your biggest issue.
 
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It is good to hear that 30-somethings are getting out of the hor/homo Matrix!!! Flee!!!!

There is a war on the masculine male!!! If you want to overcome - embrace manhood and reject the hor and the effeminate male!!!
 
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