"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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stevo

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Fellas,

Met her on OKC.

At the end of third date (clothes coming off at the backseat), I called, told her I'm going to remove myself from the equation that she should hmu when she's legally divorced (might take a year) which she's honored and hence NC since (3wks).

My moral stance's changed since and I want to renew conversation.

What would be a good conversation starter?

Also what's my frame and how do I control the situation since renewing convo puts her in control?


I'm not necessarily desperate and don't really care if it doesn't go anywhere but I can't shake the feeling of leaving ass on the table so I want to challenge my game skills to revive and still get the lay.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The whole divorce thing was something a girl would say to a guy, kind of feminine. Not to offend you just being honest.
If she wants to give you the @ss you let her.
Her divorce proceedings are none of your business.
I don't understand this at all.

You can't reach out because that would be weak. When you tell a girl you want to cut correspondence, and you reach out to her you send the message to her, and cognitive dissonance to yourself that your word means f^ck all.

And that's just not the type of man you want to be.
 

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The whole divorce thing was something a girl would say to a guy, kind of feminine. Not to offend you just being honest.
If she wants to give you the @ss you let her.
Her divorce proceedings are none of your business.
I don't understand this at all.

You can't reach out because that would be weak. When you tell a girl you want to cut correspondence, and you reach out to her you send the message to her, and cognitive dissonance to yourself that your word means f^ck all.

And that's just not the type of man you want to be.
Appreciate that.

At the time I couldn't shake the feeling of kissing someone else's wife, plus I was on Monk Mode - meaning I chose to not have sex for a period of time.

Anyways here goes:

10.50PM My waiter just asked about you, hope everything's good w you.

11.06PM Sorry who is this?

12.16AM Hey Steve, I do apologize. I am doing fine. Hope all is well with you.
Thanks for asking but you don't have to.



Thinking no response is the best response.
 

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Appreciate that.

At the time I couldn't shake the feeling of kissing someone else's wife, plus I was on Monk Mode - meaning I chose to not have sex for a period of time.

Anyways here goes:

10.50PM My waiter just asked about you, hope everything's good w you.

11.06PM Sorry who is this?

12.16AM Hey Steve, I do apologize. I am doing fine. Hope all is well with you.
Thanks for asking but you don't have to.



Thinking no response is the best response.
Why did you apologize? Still no response?
 

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My redpill-tier opinion is I doubt your moral stance changed, you probably got desperate for her because you don't have any current options.

Whatever complication she, or you indirectly, is experiencing is just unnecessary strife you have to deal with, again even if it's indirectly. Better off with the plenty of other single chicks out there.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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You **** the bed on that one. You're an over thinker like me sometimes. Seriously think about a text for 10 minutes before sending it if it could screw up a lay or just not text anything at all. Better to say less and keep frame. Your emotions got in the way and you started worrying about her divorce and maybe a relationships later and hurting feelings because you went from monk mode to a hard on in the back seat. She nailed the coffin shut with the "who's this" text. She deleted your contact which says everything. Move on, there is no ass on the table and there is no lay anymore except from a different single gal. Next time think with your ****.

Every woman is a *****. If she's not ****ing you right now, another guy is balls deeps this very moment you're texting her. Does that change your attitude and "possible feelings" towards her????? It should. When you put the idea in your head that she's banging other guys, it's easy to not get attached or open up your heart and that's exactly what you need. Head over to "chateau heartiste" blog
 
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