“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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ohh Im not talking about building up a phony character to bag chicks

Its just my psych background interested in the area of perception in women

If attraction is partly based on perception of WHO YOU ARE .. I am interested in finding out that area of perception that can be tapped into to my advantage

If I ever find it..I will post it..maybe in like 40 years

in the meantime..Im going to make a tshirt that says "I have a 12"c0ck"

and see if women suddenly become attracted
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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in the meantime..Im going to make a tshirt that says "I have a 12"c0ck"

There you go lol!
 

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Originally posted by Starman
My point is about the COMPLETE mindset..you should always meet women with the Mindset that you are a complete 10 - a supermodel
I would never argue with that.

But you must also understand that even if you *are* a perfect 10, not every woman is going to agree. Like it's been said before, my 9 may be your 5, and vice versa. It will always be a numbers game-- and the only way to score the most goals is by taking every opputunity to attack the net.
 

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I've had this friend of mine for years who is always hitting on gorgeous girls. This guy is overweight with bad teeth, receding hairline etc. He has never, NEVER , NEVER , NEVER gotten a yes from any of them.

The amazing thing is, he is still so full of confidence. I'm like give it up already!

The girls he does end up dating are average looking at best.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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The Iranian story proves only one thing....there's always someone more desperate than you are ugly.

It's all good and well to talk about confidence and persistence, but if she's not attracted to you to BEGIN with, it doesn't do any good. At best, you'll get pity.
 
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yeah, that Iranian from hell story is obvious bull****.

Its just propaganda put out by guys who so badly want to beleive looks do not matter.

-god of getting layed
 
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Originally posted by Almighty_womanizer
yeah, that Iranian from hell story is obvious bull****.

Its just propaganda put out by guys who so badly want to beleive looks do not matter.

-god of getting layed
Let me reverse your game...but looks are not the only thing that matters. Depending on looks alone will not get you laid....there is a secret to this art of getting laid and if your relying on looks alone your limiting yourself to only 15 percent returns. By not utilizing this secret your loosing out an atleast 85 percent of the women that you come into contact with.

I know the secret...but you can call me a li'er....I know how to reach that other 85 percent...your stuck in the dark ages of boning ho's...but let me give you a clue...it's not monopoly.
 

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I did not read this whole thread, but I will comment on a few things I saw mentioned.

SS did actually get me some results but it was not for the reasons I thought. I was SOLD on it and because of the confidence I had as result of being conviced that it WOULD work, I was not afraid to say and do that which was SS. Being not afraid to say anything and delivering what you say with total congruence is a BIG part of being successful with women. Which brings me to my next point...

Yes, looks attract. But that's not all that does it. I am good-looking and that helps but if that is all it takes then why was I not always able to PU? The answer is that I was not as good at the part of attraction that involves communication as I am now. Inside you can be the most interesting and likable person in the world, a person who ANY woman would love to have sex with if she only knew. What good is any of that if you are not able to demonstrate it?

Once my self-esteem grew to a point at which I was completely sold on MYSELF and what I had to offer I realized that SS was in many ways a step back for me because I was already better than it. However, I did learn something from the experience and it took going through it to fully understand it.

As for Iranian From Hell, I believe that to be a made up story that needs to be taken out of the layguides. That sort of thing just doesn't happen. Also worth pointing out is that I have met people from the seduction community both well-known and completely unknown and the guy I met who was the most convinced that Iranian From Hell was real was a 40-year-old who dressed like he was 15, looked like chubacca, smelled funny and just didn't have a grip on reality in general.

-PDX
 

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My last crush, my friends told me she was an 8. They later said they were lying and amended that to a 6.5 "in the right clothes." I hadn't even noticed that.

Nice ass though. I sould have hit that when I had the chance.
 
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The Difference Between Attractive And AttractionBy Derek Vitalio


A lot of guys don’t make the distinction between being attractive and creating attraction. This is a FATAL flaw in their thinking and is the primary reason men fail with women. If you’re not particularly attractive, women can use their critical mind to filter you out.


For example, they see you and think, “He’s not my type.” Probably 85% of men or more are not attractive enough to get attention from women alone just based on their looks. And just about all men worry about whether they’re attractive enough to get women. Thus, they never approach a woman or take a risk because any sign of disinterest on her part would be a massive blow to their ego. If a woman showed any disinterest it would make him crash with the reality that he is NOT attractive enough for women to fall all over him based on his looks. That would imply a lot of bad things – like maybe you’re a failure in some way or your charisma and personality sucks.



That’s why EVERYONE, even experienced players have hesitation at times. The hesitation and fear is there to protect our egos from an ego crash. It’s to protect us from the idea that we’re bad with women when feeling desirable is so important to our self-image. I will explain how to eliminate this problem a little later.So we are all running around worried about whether a woman will accept us or not because we’ve built into our self-image that we’re attractive.


To actually face a woman who shows disinterest would destroy our little ego bubble. And it’s true – a woman can decide whether she feels attraction to you or not based on your “look”. It is a conscious choice for her. She is the selector, the chooser, and this makes men run scared that they can’t control her choice.Now what 99% of men don’t get is that being attractive and creating attraction are completely DIFFERENT things. You can be the butt-ugliest man in the world and still make a woman feel ATTRACTION for you that she had no control over through sex cues. Let me tell you two stories to illustrate.At my bank was filling out some papers.


The bank representative with me was about 50 years old, over weight, and not attractive at all. To reiterate, I was NOT attracted to her and had already filtered her out as a possible play partner with my critical, rational mind. In fact, my critical rational mind thought “ughh” at the very idea of anything more than doing bank business with her. After we were done however, she started to open up to me and tell me different stories about her life. I was in no particular rush and her stories were interesting and she exuded a warm rapport.


So I stayed and chatted to see what she was about. She made me laugh and after a while she dropped into a sexy tonality. She began to drop hints to me, talking about movies and how Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher made a good couple and how he probably “gave her good sex so who cares what people thought that he was with an older woman.”After about an hour I told her I had to leave. As I left, she said, “I don’t normally open up like that to people and you’re a very handsome young man.”As I left I realized something very, very important.



In no way was I attracted to this rather old overweight woman – my conscious critical mind filtered out the possibility altogether. Yet as I was walking down the hall I was beginning to think some rather erotic thoughts about her. Her sexy voice tonality, making me laugh, making me feel at ease and comfortable with good rapport, and the sexual hints and innuendo were all sex cues that triggered attraction in me. Attraction was not a my conscious choice. She had bypassed my critical brain and directly triggered my limbic brain which controls sexual arousal.


I was responding to her sex cues against my will and it was much more powerful than I’d like to admit!Even now I think back, “God, I’m glad I didn’t act on my impulses!” but that’s now me thinking with my critical mind. The immediacy of her sex cuing is long gone. But at the time, I was almost ready to jump on her.Another story that illustrates the difference between being attractive (which a woman can choose or not choose you) versus creating attraction using sex cues (which she will respond to, it’s not a conscious choice) happened just recently to me.I was on the phone with a new client of mine.


She had a really cute, giggly kind of voice like a yummy-yummy wanna-be porno chicks. You could describe her voice is youthful, playful and flirtatious. Yummy yummy yum.I immediately dropped down into a more resonant tonality myself and slowed down my speech. This wasn’t a conscious decision, just an automatic response I normally have around beautiful women.The next day, I met her in person and was shocked. '''


She was not someone I would have normally been attracted to at all. She wasn’t outright ugly, but very plain looking. My mind immediately disengaged her as a potential play partner. Then she opened her mouth and out came that really cute, playful voice that exuded warmth, fun, and sexiness. She had mastery control over the sex cue of voice tonality and I was COMPELLED to respond. I was COMPELLED to be attracted. Whereas based on her looks I could feel attraction if I chose to, based on the sex cue of voice tonality I had NO CHOICE but to feel attraction.


Likewise, when you can master the key sex cues like the smile, voice tonality, body language and the others, you can make women feel deep attraction even if you look like a half-mutant crossbreed between Chewbacca and Greedo. The key to getting rid of that hesitation and fear with women is to DISENGAGE the idea of being attractive and visually desirable to women from your self-image. If you remove the idea that being attractive and visually desirable is what will get you women, then you remove much of the fear you have with them.


Because if one shows disinterest in you, you know it’s not because of who you are or how you look, but because you haven’t mastered sexual cuing that COMPELS her to feel attracted to you.And this isn’t a little mind game you’re playing on yourself. It’s the cold hard truth.You’ve just thought wrongly this whole time. You thought that if a woman shows disinterest in you or ignores you, that something was wrong with your personality or looks.



So you avoid putting your neck out on the line for fear of having your self-image and ego destroyed. But the fact is, even good-looking guys with great personalities get rejected by women ALL THE TIME. Almost NO men are good with women based on their looks and personality alone.However, ANYONE who masters sexual cuing with a self-image that does not include that they are particularly attractive or desirable to women based on their looks or who they are will experience 500% more success than even good-looking guys.
 
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