"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Beware the "Pity-Play"!!

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OK, so you met this girl...she's cute and she seems interested and she gave you her number, so you figure you may as well take a shot with her. What have you got to lose, right? :D

So you go out with her, and as the night progresses, you start to notice the red flags. Maybe she's just boring. Maybe she's annoying to talk to. Maybe she drinks too much. Maybe she's flirting with other guys. Maybe she loses her temper easily. Maybe she's into hardcore drugs or some other dangerous habit.

Whatever it is, you're just about getting tired of it. As a "Don Juan", you know there are 6 other women out there right now who DON'T have these problems and are looking for a man of your caliber...and really you want to believe this girl is OK, but you're just being polite at this point and looking for your "out".

Women can sense this...and every now and then, they pull out the dirtiest, sneakiest desperation ploy they can find...the "Pity-Play".

She'll start to tear up, give you that devastated look, and suddenly it all comes out. She was abused as a child, or had an abusive boyfriend, or failed out of school, or has a disorder, or had bad times in her previous life, fell in with the wrong crowd, etc, etc...

This ploy plays on a man's emotions. It tries to get him to start thinking:
-"All the red flags aren't really her fault"
-"She's a good person that just needs help"
-"She's opening up to me THIS early, she must really like me/feel comfortable"
-"If I'm 'understanding' of her, I'm in!"
-"If I'm NOT 'understanding' of her, I'm a cruel jackass."

It's dirty and underhanded because you feel like if you don't respond in the way she wants you to, you're cruel and heartless. I mean, how could you shut yourself off to a woman crying?? People will look at you and think you're an ass. You'll feel miserable for letting this poor thing suffer.

So under all this pressure, you do EXACTLY what she wants you to do. You make the worst decision possible given the circumstances:

You absolve her of responsibility for ALL her faults and her misdeeds past, present, and future.

From then on:
-When she flirts with other guys, you let her slide.
-When she gets drunk or drugged up, you understand.
-When she flips out for no reason, gives you a hard time, or busts your balls, you have pity.
-When she demands unreasonable things of you, you acquiesce.
-When she denies you affection, you sympathize with her "not wanting to be hurt again".

You have become CAPTAIN SAVE-A-HO. You have vindicated this girls bullsh!t idea that all the things that are wrong in her life that SHE SHOULD BE DEALING WITH are not her fault and therefore should be accepted as normal. You have essentially taken the responsibility of DEALING WITH HER ISSUES FOR HER, BECAUSE SHE WILL NOT.

It's OK, though, because you love her and she loves you, right?

Right??

-She won't have sex with you because she doesn't want to end up "being used", but you still turn her on, right??
-She never has a good time when you're together, but she still enjoys being with you, right??
-She sleeps around with other men, but she still loves only you, right??
-She ruins your life whenever it's convenient for her, but she still respects you, right??

Wake up.

What you have here is NOT a quality girl who's fallen on some tragedy in her life and wants you to help her work through it. What you have here is a tragedy-case who wants to continue screwing up her life at the expense of YOUR good-nature.

DO NOT let women pull this sh!t on you. It's not your responsibility to save them, or vindicate them, or absorb their BS, or fix their life. When you're out on a first or second date and a woman breaks down and drops the "pity-play", it's time to walk. If you feel bad you can give her a hug on your way out.

A real, GOOD woman may cry, and she'll be grateful for your support, but she takes responsibility for dealing with the ill in her life...she doesn't try to pawn it off on you.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Fantastic tip, Squirrels, and a really valuable warning!

I've had many first hand experiences of this pity-play and have fallen for it time after time, even when she has been the one to dump me. Can't add anything to what's already been said, just watch out for it!
 

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Sometimes there are girls out there who are very good at camaflouging their problems and red flags. They often put in a good front persona to lure you in and slowly as you get closer to her through time, her real personality and faults slowly start to sip in.

This transformation of the girl from good to bad will cause many DJ's to ask themselves if they are at fault here. After all everything started great but 3-4 months into the relationship things have began to deteriorate and you begin to question your own skills. Then once she transforms from the good girl to problem child, you might slowly transform from a DJ to Captain-Save-A-Hoe, so you have to be careful about that one.

Once you become a DJ, always be a DJ and never let your guard down or get lazy and let your skills wither away.
 

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You make a very valid point squirrels. This is almost the Exact definition of an Emotional Tampon.

But you gotta be sure that this chick is lying about her tragedies before you shun her, because it is possible you could make a real arse out of yourself. You need evidence. Her friend's word does not count, women will team up on you.

But if she's for real, it's all on you for what to do. Whatever you believe you should do.

If she's lying you need to cut your losses and rid yourself of that hoe QUICKSTYLE.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I Disagree


I have a girlfriend with problems, they came out through me asking about them. I would love to help, i know i could leave at any second because i am a jerk. However, i love her and in fact im not sexing her even though she wants it.
 

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Originally posted by JSH
I Disagree


I have a girlfriend with problems, they came out through me asking about them. I would love to help, i know i could leave at any second because i am a jerk. However, i love her and in fact im not sexing her even though she wants it.
There's a couple of delusional messages in here. But g'luck with your basketcase.
 

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Originally posted by Create Reality
You make a very valid point squirrels. This is almost the Exact definition of an Emotional Tampon.

But you gotta be sure that this chick is lying about her tragedies before you shun her, because it is possible you could make a real arse out of yourself. You need evidence. Her friend's word does not count, women will team up on you.

But if she's for real, it's all on you for what to do. Whatever you believe you should do.

If she's lying you need to cut your losses and rid yourself of that hoe QUICKSTYLE.
It doesn't matter if she's telling the truth or lying. The point is she's trying to absolve herself of all responsibility for her sh!tty attitude and her sh!tty behavior.

I'm not saying you shouldn't feel SORRY for her, but it's not your responsibility to save her or vindicate her or approve of her behavior just because she's got issues. Even if other people think you're sh!t because of it...because those people usually don't see what's REALLY going on. All they see is a girl crying and you not falling on your knees to help her feel better.

If you want to be a good samaritan and offer to help her, that's one thing. But once a girl has employed this on you, you should END the romance, PERMANENTLY.
 

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...And I agree for the most part. You should try to do the right thing, and maybe help the girl if she's for real.

I believe what this type of attitude may come down to psychologically is that this girl does not have close relations with who she can talk to about these things, and she's spilling the mess all over the first person who will listen.

But some hoes, yeah some hoes will manipulate men like this for their own agenda. These hoes are bad news.

Try to tell the difference.
 

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Just don't be a captain-save-a-ho and you'll be fine :cheer:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Lawl...this actually happened to me, it's quite pathetic. I quickly looked for the quickest way out, this girl was crazy, xD.
 

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Damn, this is awesome. Thanks for the warning. I just met this girl that is in to smoking pot, drinking and sh!it. Well I don't mind doing that stuff but if this sh!t comes up I'll know exactly what to do. Thanks for posting this vital information.
 

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Yeah you are right, i didnt read it properly. The women he talks about use psychological problems as an excuse to justify their behaviour. Whereas, my girlfriend has psychological problems.
 
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