If you don't go to the High School Forum this probably isn't a problem but beware the Keyboard Jockies. These are guys who give advice, but don't really have any proof of success on their own. They'll come into threads acting like they're the biggest DJ in the world, but suspiciously you see no proof of success in any of their threads. These guys like to start fights and might even get your threads locked if you give into them. They enjoy ripping on those who are actually going out there and trying to improve. But a Keyboard Jockie can have success, but if he acts bigger than he is, he's still a Keyboard Jockie. Some I've noticed are SenorSuave, Slick101 and ChrizZ.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Beware... the Keyboard Jockies...
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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The More You Know!
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Be suspicious of anyone who mindlessly repeats material from seduction literature.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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It's over the edge naming people who you think are keyboard jockies. Behind a computer there's not much you can tell really. Yeah sure, a lot of times you'll be spot on, but no one can know for sure.
I think that instead of trying to figure out who is a keyboard jockie and who isn't, you should try to figure the good advice from the bad advice.
Personally I read through this board once or twice a day and only take advice seriously from the seasoned members or guys who appear to have actual knowledge about what they're preaching. Other advice given I simply take it as "opinions"...
Since what mainly happens is people giving their opinion, the best you can do is consider their advice and choose what you think is better to do in your situation.
I think that instead of trying to figure out who is a keyboard jockie and who isn't, you should try to figure the good advice from the bad advice.
Personally I read through this board once or twice a day and only take advice seriously from the seasoned members or guys who appear to have actual knowledge about what they're preaching. Other advice given I simply take it as "opinions"...
Since what mainly happens is people giving their opinion, the best you can do is consider their advice and choose what you think is better to do in your situation.
But you aren't understanding the whole situation dude. I can tell when a dude knows what they're talking about. But I can also tell "iffy" advice. If the dude gives "Iffy" advice, doesn't have any proof of success and argues with you when you don't follow their "Iffy" advice, they're a keyboard jockey. And it's not all about advice either, keyboard jockies have a rep for just talking crap and bragging about the success they don't have. They also like to diss people who are actually going out there and approaching. A true Don Juan doesn't need to talk crap or brag about his success. A true DJ KNOWS he's good and doesn't care whether people know or not. If anything a DJ would try to help people rather than act all big and try to act like he's better than everyone else. That's further proof that these guys are keyboard jockies, act like they have DJ success, but don't act like DJ's at all.
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A DJ would also not care if some dude was shooting his mouth off, unless it affected him or someone he cares about.
If you stir up a big mess about KJ's and throw a fit, you're doing exactly what they want, and you're not being much of a DJ either.
Just let them do what they want. They can say they're the greatest, and lie about all their success, but at the end of the day, they're still sitting alone on their computers with nothing to show for it. Why should you care? Let them kill themselves off.
If you stir up a big mess about KJ's and throw a fit, you're doing exactly what they want, and you're not being much of a DJ either.
Just let them do what they want. They can say they're the greatest, and lie about all their success, but at the end of the day, they're still sitting alone on their computers with nothing to show for it. Why should you care? Let them kill themselves off.
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Yes BEWARE!!! In terms of danger, KJs are right behind Michael Myers (Halloween) and Jason (Friday The 13th) in their ability to sprout fear in the hearts of men!!ElStud said:
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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okay we got the point, quit bumping. why do your threads always get so much attention.
I try to do the same. You'd have to be an idiot if you just mindlessly followed what people on this board told you without thinking things through. Learn some discernment.Ace of Flames
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You're supposed to strive to be a better man, a DJ, correct? These guys are just taking it to an extreme, while you aren't taking it anywhere.ElStud said:
MY point was, stop your b!tching.
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Sadly this cannot be taught - it is inbred! "Discernment" is the father of "insight"!Obsidian said:
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
And if I stop ranting the keyboard jockies magicly go away right? No. I could shut up about it, but that does not help the situation. They still lurk the forums killing peoples threads, corrupting peoples threads, it's got to stop. Sure if they did all that KJ sh*t and they didn't harm anyone else, I wouldn't give a hoot. But since they ARE indeed causing problems for others, it's got to stop.Ace of Flames said:
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Regardless of what you say, you aren't making a difference. Unless you have some sort of master plan under wraps? No? Didn't think so. You aren't a mod, you can't ban them. They have the basic right to say what they want, even if it is bad for the community overall.ElStud said:
My biggest gripe with this whole thread is, why does this matter so much to you? Instead of wasting time trying to kick people out of our oh-so-special forum, why aren't you doing what you're here to do? Honestly, if someone listens to bad advice from these guys, they probably deserve to get burned once or twice. And even if they don't, they'll wise up to it soon enough. Eventually everyone will just tune them out, and they'll stfu.
So in the meantime, just don't let some losers with keyboards get under your skin, distracting you from your goal of self-improvement, and go out there and game some chicks or something! This isn't the right kind of forum to be having drama.
Oh they deserve it? No, if you're not exactly a master PUA and someone gives you bad advice, you're probably going to take it, because hey, for all you know that person could be right. Luckily I can filter out the bad advice, but not everyone can do that. If a person is given bad advice, then they use that advice and it doesn't work, it makes the person think THEY'RE doing something wrong. Why does it matter so much to me? Why does it matter so much to you that it matters so much to me? Exactly.
And FYI, I am doing what I'm here to do, post Field Report's. I don't let KJ's slow me down, it's just that just by saying one thing, a KJ can completely take your thread off topic and get your topic LOCKED.
And FYI, I am doing what I'm here to do, post Field Report's. I don't let KJ's slow me down, it's just that just by saying one thing, a KJ can completely take your thread off topic and get your topic LOCKED.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.