"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Beware... the Keyboard Jockies...

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If you don't go to the High School Forum this probably isn't a problem but beware the Keyboard Jockies. These are guys who give advice, but don't really have any proof of success on their own. They'll come into threads acting like they're the biggest DJ in the world, but suspiciously you see no proof of success in any of their threads. These guys like to start fights and might even get your threads locked if you give into them. They enjoy ripping on those who are actually going out there and trying to improve. But a Keyboard Jockie can have success, but if he acts bigger than he is, he's still a Keyboard Jockie. Some I've noticed are SenorSuave, Slick101 and ChrizZ.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Hey I'm just warning you guys. So you don't fall into the trap of these trolls.
 

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ElStud said:
If you don't go to the High School Forum this probably isn't a problem but beware the Keyboard Jockies. These are guys who give advice, but don't really have any proof of success on their own. They'll come into threads acting like they're the biggest DJ in the world, but suspiciously you see no proof of success in any of their threads. These guys like to start fights and might even get your threads locked if you give into them. They enjoy ripping on those who are actually going out there and trying to improve. But a Keyboard Jockie can have success, but if he acts bigger than he is, he's still a Keyboard Jockie. Some I've noticed are SenorSuave, Slick101 and ChrizZ.
Well, not everybody is a PUG like ElStud. Check out his approaches to be a witness of his insane pickup skills!
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Says the guy who got one number close and acts like he's a Pick Up Guru. I know I don't have much success and I don't act like I do. You know you don't have much success, but you act like you know it all.
 

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It's over the edge naming people who you think are keyboard jockies. Behind a computer there's not much you can tell really. Yeah sure, a lot of times you'll be spot on, but no one can know for sure.

I think that instead of trying to figure out who is a keyboard jockie and who isn't, you should try to figure the good advice from the bad advice.

Personally I read through this board once or twice a day and only take advice seriously from the seasoned members or guys who appear to have actual knowledge about what they're preaching. Other advice given I simply take it as "opinions"...

Since what mainly happens is people giving their opinion, the best you can do is consider their advice and choose what you think is better to do in your situation.
 

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But you aren't understanding the whole situation dude. I can tell when a dude knows what they're talking about. But I can also tell "iffy" advice. If the dude gives "Iffy" advice, doesn't have any proof of success and argues with you when you don't follow their "Iffy" advice, they're a keyboard jockey. And it's not all about advice either, keyboard jockies have a rep for just talking crap and bragging about the success they don't have. They also like to diss people who are actually going out there and approaching. A true Don Juan doesn't need to talk crap or brag about his success. A true DJ KNOWS he's good and doesn't care whether people know or not. If anything a DJ would try to help people rather than act all big and try to act like he's better than everyone else. That's further proof that these guys are keyboard jockies, act like they have DJ success, but don't act like DJ's at all.
 

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A DJ would also not care if some dude was shooting his mouth off, unless it affected him or someone he cares about.

If you stir up a big mess about KJ's and throw a fit, you're doing exactly what they want, and you're not being much of a DJ either.

Just let them do what they want. They can say they're the greatest, and lie about all their success, but at the end of the day, they're still sitting alone on their computers with nothing to show for it. Why should you care? Let them kill themselves off.
 
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ElStud said:
Beware... the Keyboard Jockies...
Yes BEWARE!!! In terms of danger, KJs are right behind Michael Myers (Halloween) and Jason (Friday The 13th) in their ability to sprout fear in the hearts of men!!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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But see, Ace, I'm not a DJ. And I'm not acting like one. These KJ's are acting like DJ's but aren't DJ's. That's my point.
 

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smooth guy said:
Personally I read through this board once or twice a day and only take advice seriously from the seasoned members or guys who appear to have actual knowledge about what they're preaching. Other advice given I simply take it as "opinions." Since what mainly happens is people giving their opinion, the best you can do is consider their advice and choose what you think is better to do in your situation.
well said. :up: I try to do the same. You'd have to be an idiot if you just mindlessly followed what people on this board told you without thinking things through. Learn some discernment.
 

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ElStud said:
But see, Ace, I'm not a DJ. And I'm not acting like one. These KJ's are acting like DJ's but aren't DJ's. That's my point.
You're supposed to strive to be a better man, a DJ, correct? These guys are just taking it to an extreme, while you aren't taking it anywhere.

MY point was, stop your b!tching.
 
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Learn some discernment.
Sadly this cannot be taught - it is inbred! "Discernment" is the father of "insight"!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Ace of Flames said:
You're supposed to strive to be a better man, a DJ, correct? These guys are just taking it to an extreme, while you aren't taking it anywhere.

MY point was, stop your b!tching.
And if I stop ranting the keyboard jockies magicly go away right? No. I could shut up about it, but that does not help the situation. They still lurk the forums killing peoples threads, corrupting peoples threads, it's got to stop. Sure if they did all that KJ sh*t and they didn't harm anyone else, I wouldn't give a hoot. But since they ARE indeed causing problems for others, it's got to stop.
 

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ElStud said:
And if I stop ranting the keyboard jockies magicly go away right? No. I could shut up about it, but that does not help the situation. They still lurk the forums killing peoples threads, corrupting peoples threads, it's got to stop. Sure if they did all that KJ sh*t and they didn't harm anyone else, I wouldn't give a hoot. But since they ARE indeed causing problems for others, it's got to stop.
Regardless of what you say, you aren't making a difference. Unless you have some sort of master plan under wraps? No? Didn't think so. You aren't a mod, you can't ban them. They have the basic right to say what they want, even if it is bad for the community overall.

My biggest gripe with this whole thread is, why does this matter so much to you? Instead of wasting time trying to kick people out of our oh-so-special forum, why aren't you doing what you're here to do? Honestly, if someone listens to bad advice from these guys, they probably deserve to get burned once or twice. And even if they don't, they'll wise up to it soon enough. Eventually everyone will just tune them out, and they'll stfu.

So in the meantime, just don't let some losers with keyboards get under your skin, distracting you from your goal of self-improvement, and go out there and game some chicks or something! This isn't the right kind of forum to be having drama.
 

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Oh they deserve it? No, if you're not exactly a master PUA and someone gives you bad advice, you're probably going to take it, because hey, for all you know that person could be right. Luckily I can filter out the bad advice, but not everyone can do that. If a person is given bad advice, then they use that advice and it doesn't work, it makes the person think THEY'RE doing something wrong. Why does it matter so much to me? Why does it matter so much to you that it matters so much to me? Exactly.

And FYI, I am doing what I'm here to do, post Field Report's. I don't let KJ's slow me down, it's just that just by saying one thing, a KJ can completely take your thread off topic and get your topic LOCKED.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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