"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Anyone here grew up in the 90s? I remember watching this show a lot, though it might be amusing, now looking back it might been a bad influence to a lot of people because it promoted Promiscuity, lack of respect and greed. What do you guys think, if this show never existed, would Society be as better as it is now? Just a thought.

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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What do you guys think, if this show never existed, would Society be as better as it is now? Just a thought.
The long term impact of the 1990s TV show Beverly Hills 90210 is minimal.

There were trashy TV shows that existed before it and after it.

In the 1990s, most of its audience was 1970s-early 1980s born females. It's definitely more of a Gen X show than a Gen Y/Millennial show, though the earliest Millennials might have caught its later seasons.

it promoted Promiscuity, lack of respect and greed.
Plenty of other TV shows of the 1980s-2000s also promoted these things.
 

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The long term impact of the 1990s TV show Beverly Hills 90210 is minimal.

There were trashy TV shows that existed before it and after it.

In the 1990s, most of its audience was 1970s-early 1980s born females. It's definitely more of a Gen X show than a Gen Y/Millennial show, though the earliest Millennials might have caught its later seasons.



Plenty of other TV shows of the 1980s-2000s also promoted these things.
Small impact? Lol

Shows like these set the bar and made woman go after what we nowadays call " Chad".
 

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Anyone here grew up in the 90s? I remember watching this show a lot, though it might be amusing, now looking back it might been a bad influence to a lot of people because it promoted Promiscuity, lack of respect and greed. What do you guys think, if this show never existed, would Society be as better as it is now? Just a thought.

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This actually reminds me of another production from The 90s https://tubitv.com/movies/445237/do...y&tracking=google-feed&utm_source=google-feed , namely the words from 9:57-10:10

We moderns could actually all benefit from a RETURN to the sort of mindset expressed there
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Shows like these set the bar and made woman go after what we nowadays call " Chad".
How so?

The more influential factor in that was tech-based dating platforms giving women abundance to demand top tier men (aka 'Chad')

That only happened for Millennial females, who were too young to watch Beverly Hills 90210 in its most popular years.
 

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That only happened for Millennial females, who were too young to watch Beverly Hills 90210 in its most popular years.
Speed Dating and classified ads for folks seeking love existed long before those tech platforms you mentioned. Same way young girls have been taking their clothes off on camera for a few quick bucks, long before OF existed
 

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Anyone here grew up in the 90s? I remember watching this show a lot, though it might be amusing, now looking back it might been a bad influence to a lot of people because it promoted Promiscuity, lack of respect and greed. What do you guys think, if this show never existed, would Society be as better as it is now? Just a thought.
It didnt do much.

Sex and the City was much worse in terms of its effect.
 

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Sex and the City was much worse in terms of its effect.
I agree.

Sex and the City aired from 1998-2004 and some of the earliest Millennial women (think 1981-1984 births) were affected by it. I even made a thread in 2023 about a never married, childless woman born in 1982 who cited Friends & Sex and the City as being major influences on her views on mating and relationships.


Rollo Tomassi even commented about this on his first day as a SoSuave forum member in 2004. This was a few months after the final episode of Sex and the City aired.

 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Gabrielle Carteris was 29 in Season 1. Many of them were well into their 20s.
So it is with all these "teen" soaps. At present, the primary cast of f-cking Gossip Girl(which is hardly ancient history)are 40 or getting pretty damned close to it
 
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