"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Better way of finding out

What would be better?

  • Natural

    Votes: 6 50.0%
  • DJ

    Votes: 6 50.0%

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tactic

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Would it be better to ask a "natural" (someone who hasn't learned from anybody) or a "DJ" or someone from the web who might have alot of knowledge about "life and women"?

Take your vote!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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So Many Ways

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Originally posted by tactic
Would it be better to ask a "natural" (someone who hasn't learned from anybody) or a "DJ" or someone from the web who might have alot of knowledge about "life and women"?

Take your vote!
I don't know any "DJ"s in real life other than the ones that spin records so I have to go with naturals.
 

AlwaysExcel

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In my experience, it's better not to ask a natural about his game in general. It's better to just watch him and model what he does. Usually naturals can't break their game down properly. However, I've got some good info when I asked my natural friends how they deal with specific seduction issues like ASD or isolating chicks.
 

tom121

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natural = true player
dj = wannabe players and geeks who thinks he knows about everything

:rolleyes:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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I know 'naturals' in many arenas, DJs, athletes, computer and financial wizards, etc. When asked 'How do you do it?' they all replied with an answer similar to "I don't know, I just do it..."

This actually makes sense. If you do something naturally, do you ever need to take a moment to dissect exactly HOW you do it? Probably not because you already do it well. And if you haven't had a need to analyze what you do, how could you effectively teach someone else how to do it? That's probably why people posted that they would watch a natural and learn, the natural could not teach them point by point how to do what they do.

DJs who've learned the hard way can teach you what to do and also give you examples of how not to do things based on personal experience. Plus, when you watch them, you know what to look for because they have already explained their technique.

I have nothing against 'naturals' what so ever. I just have not yet run into a true natural that has had an urge to analyze their talent.
 

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I reckon you can be a natural and then just add some DJ'ing techniques / ideas that you might hear from mates, or read about in magazines what not...

Then i think you could pretty much handle anything with class.
 
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