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Better and Bitter

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Sup gents,

Haven’t posted in a while as the days have been pretty demanding. The reason for this post is to vent a bit. This is the only group I will ever vent to about red pill sh!t, so deal with it.

Our mantra here is to better ourselves, and by virtue of this, life gets better, our confidence goes up, and we attract women (and others) into our world. We call our own shots, live on our terms, and put our value systems before all else.

I’ve always believed that when life is going badly, it’s easy to start hating the world. Envy ramps up because it’s easier to point fingers than to look at the real problem. When I was at my lowest point to date, I hated people who had it better and convinced myself I had to work 10 times harder for the same results others had. While this may have been true to a small extent, it was pretty far from a universal reality.

It was downright refusal on my part to own up to the fact that I had to work harder, and do better, or remain bitter. My insecurities and disappointments with myself were projected onto the external world, and it made me impossible to be around. As my life improved, I started making more money, started a business and grew up, my outlook on the world changed accordingly. Odd how that works. I guess the old saying “smile and the world smiles with you” is very true.

I’ve never really had trouble getting laid. My problem with women has been keeping them around for any length of time. Often, it seems that the better looking she is, the faster she bails. In my 20s, I pulled very attractive women, but after sex I would let my beta side mess it all up, she’d bail, and that was it. I’d become emotional and cling to some ideal image of romance that was never really based in reality, repulse the hell out of her, then I was back on the hunt being Mister Brokenhearted. Part of lacking a male role model growing up I guess. I was the dude in Rollo’s blog posts to a T.

I repeated this process often until red pill reality finally sunk in and the light went on that because of my messed up impression about society and women, I was making horrible relational choices that I still battle today. Now in my 30’s, maturity, money and independence is a part of the picture. I’m in a better position now than ever to call my own shots with women and I’m my own boss. But the problem is that I’m angry and bitter, and anger is a huge turn off to women unless you’re dating a stripper, in which case it can work in your favor. Not only that, but anger kills, makes you depressed, and causes heart problems.

While I’m sexually attracted to women, I’m growing very resentful of what they are as people. I literally cannot see past their self-centeredness and arrogance. What’s bothersome is that I thought it would go away with improving my life…but it’s become worse if anything. Their tendencies and ruthlessness disgust me. I’m feeling a festering dislike that grows by the day and it’s perplexing me. On one hand I want to nail every decent looking woman I see, on the other hand I want to ridicule and belittle them. I’ve been working my a$$ of for years in the school of hard knocks, and now it’s finally paid off. But, I’m pissed. I’m pissed that all a woman has to do is keep her legs closed to other men, be thin, be respectful, be feminine, and she can have a great life rife with plush vacations, paid bills, a$$ ki$$ery, sex, kids, you name it. Hell, they get those perks WITHOUT any virtues. How is this a difficult job? Yet just about every woman I meet can’t even do that much. It’s pathetic. Finding a woman who isn’t carrying DNA remnants from 10 other dudes in her birth canal? You have a better chance at winning the lottery. Finding a woman who builds her man up in the public eye? Riiiiight. Finding a thin woman with a good attitude? Uh huh.

I’m angry that I’ve had to bust my a$$ daily for years just to get myself here, and it bothers me even more that when I was struggling in my late 20’s and early 30’s to get my income and career ramped up, women would turn their noses up as if I had nothing to offer. Now I’m doing better, and I get attention like I did when I was younger, probably more so now. Now it’s women in their 20’s, 30’s and 40’s and one today in her 50’s. Most men would be happy with this, but I’m bitter about it and it’s getting under my skin. It’s like where the F were all you ladies when life was tough? Oh yea, branch swinging and c0ck tasting in your “relationships”.

I’ve seen 3 women these past few weeks. It’s gone like this:
Woman 1: HB8.5 little Asian girl. Went out for coffee then to the beach. We were hitting it off great, then she said “if we get married, you’ll have to shave your beard”. I haven’t answered her calls for 3 weeks now.

Woman 2: Went out with a HB7 last week. All she did was mock her ex and make fun of the men we saw. I haven’t called her back, her attitude repulses me.

Woman 3: Went out with career girl Saturday night, ~HB7.5. All she did was talk about herself, her career, and well, herself. Then after coffee (and her taking pictures of coffee) we were on our way to the boardwalk and she says in a giddy voice, “you knooooow, if you don’t make at least $100k a year, this would never work!” followed with a “haha I’m completely kidding ”. I turned the car around, and told her thanks for the wonderful evening. She looked at me with that dumb “I was just kidding, what’s your problem” look. Although I break her salary barrier, I was about to lose it. Better to leave her back at her car than deal with her all night. I didn’t care that I was pissed off and she knew it. I wanted to rip her to shreds to be honest, but that goes against my code, and ironically she probably would have liked it and told all her craptastic friends about it on Facebook, and at work, and on Instagram, and on Twitter, and on Pinterest.

The thing is, the vaginas these women possess aren’t worth passing their tests. I just don’t care to anymore. As I get less bitter with life, I get more bitter with women, and I cannot seem to shake it. It's supposed to go the other way. Now most of you might say “What does it matter? Just pump and dump.” Truth is, these women didn’t/don't get me aroused.

It’s a common misconception that all a woman has to do is be attractive and that’s all the man could ever want. I would argue that chemistry AND looks have a ton to do with it. I’ve been with some women who were gorgeous with snotfaced attitudes, and fought to get it up. Then I’ve been with average women whom I was very drawn to and had marathon sex with multiple times a night. In all 3 of the above cases, the women were hb7-8.5, and I can’t get an erection thinking about any of them sitting on my face naked.

Maybe I’m a closet homo, who knows.

Thanks for listening. Looking forward to this bitterness fading soon, or that someone can possibly offer some ways to just see past the BS and take what you want. I just can’t seem to respect women these days.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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This is one of the only long posts that ive read here in a while. So i have to comment. I understand where your coming from. I am bitter in my own ways, angry also. Why? Because im not where i want to be in life.

I put it to this: Your not happy where you are in life either. You said in your posts the beta-ness got the best of you and steered the woman away. Part of that is still in you, subconsciously.

Reality hit is what it was. Woman arent the people you think they where when you were growing up.

I remember one poster here said something a while ago along the lines of. No woman will ever love you as much as your mother.
Basically I believe a lot of guys think there GF's/Wifes, whoever, would like to think they will love them as much as there own mother because there "committed". When in fact thats not true. Then when the wife or GF cheats, there dumbfounded.

You said you had a problem keeping the girls. So do I...Out of lets say 20 girls...1, 2, 3 of them stick around, and i still never know when there gonna bail or find a "relationship" to be in. So your not the only one

Woman can tell when your bitter or angry, ever think maybe thats the reason there not sticking around? You give off that vibe?

Like I said I understand where your coming from, to keep it simple i learned this....ACCEPT woman for who they are. You can go around being bitter all you want, what is that going to do for you? NOTHING. Except draw everyone away.
 
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You are experiencing what I have this past year. I understand completely what you are going through. Why should a high value man deal with the same woman that would give it up for just anyone?

It's the bitter taste of the red pill, understanding and experiencing what women are capable of. At the end of the day, your logic tells you none of them are worth any commitment what so ever. However that little beta in you wants to believe they are worth something more than sex. Either you completely swallow the red pill and realize there is nothing beyond sex - afterwards let the pieces fall where they may. Or embrace the blue pill ideology that there's someone out there for everyone.
 

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BeDJ said:
You are experiencing what I have this past year. I understand completely what you are going through. Why should a high value man deal with the same woman that would give it up for just anyone?

It's the bitter taste of the red pill, understanding and experiencing what women are capable of. At the end of the day, your logic tells you none of them are worth any commitment what so ever. However that little beta in you wants to believe they are worth something more than sex. Either you completely swallow the red pill and realize there is nothing beyond sex - afterwards let the pieces fall where they may. Or embrace the blue pill ideology that there's someone out there for everyone.
:up:
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Hi Origin138

At least at the age of 35 you have learned the true nature of women - it took me about 20 years later to reach the same conclusions. But at least you are still young enough to do something about it - as I have. It is fairly easy once you accept that 95% of women are flawed and that is due to their inherent nature and the feminist society that we live in.

That's facts dude accept it as part of the swallowing that bitter red pill!

The best way out is to assemble (what we call in Engineering) a core team of women to fulfill you needs as follows:

Love Your mom, sister and close family.

Friendship Well balanced women you can hang with, with your male buddies who enjoy the things you do - such as watching and playing sport, drinking buddies, dancing partners, etc.

Sex Easy - pay for it. You earn enough money! So once or twice a month have it with a hooker. Then you can enjoy HB9 without all their sh!t. If you are a regular, it's surprising how much enjoyment they will give you. All you have to do is to treat them properly as you would any other lover that you've been with previously. All women are slvts at heart anyway! So put why up with their sh!t.

Women have an uncanny six sense of who you have Fvcked previously - It's like it's been branded on your forehead or something. I don't know why - just accept it - I have. If you fvck low class chicks - they will know immediately.

Easy steps - to have the best things and more importantly to keep your money and your sanity intact.
 

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But, I’m pissed. I’m pissed that all a woman has to do is keep her legs closed to other men, be thin, be respectful, be feminine, and she can have a great life rife with plush vacations, paid bills, a$$ ki$$ery, sex, kids, you name it. Hell, they get those perks WITHOUT any virtues.

How do you know it's a "great life?" Show me a woman with an ass-kissing husband who gives her everything, and I will see a woman who is bored, miserable, and fantasizing about cheating on him with me. Happiness is not limited to a list of easily observed tangible traits. You can never know how happy someone is by looking at their life from the outside.
 

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origin138 said:
I’m angry that I’ve had to bust my a$$ daily for years just to get myself here, and it bothers me even more that when I was struggling in my late 20’s and early 30’s to get my income and career ramped up, women would turn their noses up as if I had nothing to offer. Now I’m doing better, and I get attention like I did when I was younger, probably more so now. Now it’s women in their 20’s, 30’s and 40’s and one today in her 50’s. Most men would be happy with this, but I’m bitter about it and it’s getting under my skin. It’s like where the F were all you ladies when life was tough? Oh yea, branch swinging and c0ck tasting in your “relationships”.
This is definitely something that's crossed my mind a few times. I suppose naively I've always hoped that if I build my value high enough, I'll be in a position to filter out the undamaged ones.

Having said this, I do think these boards do give an incredibly distorted view of women. I'm not denying there are a tonne of bad eggs out there.. but there are certainly some good ones too, however few in number they may be - it's just where to find them?
 

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BeDJ said:
Why should a high value man deal with the same woman that would give it up for just anyone?
You are only that which you can acquire on the market. Read that again. Your value is what you offer to others. If nobody is buying what you're selling, then you're not "high value."

If the chicks aren't banging you, then either realize that you're not as "high value" as you thought you were -- and change that -- or put yourself in front of different chicks who will buy what you're selling.

Because your "high value" might be worthless to most women, and the "just anyone" that they're sleeping with may provide far more on the market than you do.

It seems like the bitterness of most guys stems from the fact that the marketplace doesn't value what they're offering. Reminds me of Research in Motion (ie., Blackberry). They're a dying company because they couldn't change with the times. The market moved away from what they were offering and found BBRY devices to be pretty valueless.

Bitter guys are ones who don't want to deal with the fact that the things they think are important aren't the things that the mating market values. Don't blame the women if they're not buying what you're selling. Reminds me of fat chicks who blame men for not being attracted to them.

It is fairly easy once you accept that 95% of women are flawed and that is due to their inherent nature and the feminist society that we live in.
No no no... 100% of women are "flawed." As are 100% of men. That's called being human. If you still think there are some "ideal" chicks out there then you're deluded.
 

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I have some thoughts.

First of all, Origin, I have definitely been where you are at mentally with women, and still am to a degree. It can be a hard thing to differentiate between your own emotional resentment and issues and the TRUTH regarding most modern women.

I think "swallowing the red pill" gets painted as this nihilistic, bitter awakening where you realize that ALL women are not worth commitment, but this is just as fallacious as saying that everyone has a "one". There are very few absolutes in life and women are no exception.

That said though, I totally get where you are coming from, as do the majority of guys on this forum. Dating fvcking blows at times, especially when all you are seeing is one cookie-cutter self-absorbed, self-seeking, narcissistic **** after another. Then, like me, you meet a woman (or women) who dont necessarily redeem your faith in the gender, but do give you some perspective that the entire lot hasn't gone bad.

I agree with you---it's unfair the way life is sometimes and it sucks that we have to bust balls and WORK for our keep while all they need to do is look pretty and put out (or not put out). However, hating the game wont change it. Men are the great enablers of women, because we want pvssy, and we (collectively) buy the social schemas that have been propagated for years.

So what's the solution? I honestly dont know. I think when you find that girl who redeems your morose outlook, you want to protect her from spoilage and cultivate that relationship. It gets easier to let go of the hordes of narcissists when you have a loving, submissive, pleasant woman to come home to. And at the same time, your red pill views dont really change. Even if you meet and keep an exception, it doesn't change the general rule. That's why I think a well-rounded life and game awareness are so important to maintain throughout a man's life.

A final thought: Too much manosphere is toxic. It's bad enough that you have to deal with this crap on a weekly basis, you don't need constant reinforcement and saturation from reading cynical blogs and angry rants. Sometimes it's good to insulate your self from all that.
 

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The real horror of it all is the astounding depth and breadth of modern woman's decline.

It wouldn't be so bad if 20 or 30 percent were halfway decent human beings, but I honestly believe the number is less than 1%.

They are herd creatures and have become delusional en masse. There is nothing in them that could have done otherwise, just as most children will self-destruct without guidance and leadership.
 

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My Opinion:

You're putting WAYYYYYYY to much stock in the actual words these ladies are saying.

Unless she's screaming on the phone to the cops, or crying rape in a crowded bar, you're response should be to listen, agree, laugh it off, whatever, then continue doing whatever you were doing.

I don't see any of these incidents as "red flags" or "tests." Just ignorant females spouting off based on their limited experience.

Unless you're looking for the Perfect Wife, forget about what girls say, and only focus on physical escalation, and "energy."

You're making the CRUCIAL mistake of thinking that because YOU are progressing, with new insights, understandings, skills, etc, THE WORLD will recognize and give you mad props.

The world WILL ALWAYS be filled with honey-boo-boo morons who have trouble thinking for themselves.

If you're expecting validation, approval or recognition from the modern woman, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

People, in general, are selfish, short term thinking, idiots.

Figure out what you want from them, and deal with them on THEIR level.

Don't expect them to deal with you on YOURS.
 

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I see bitterness and loathing kind of comes with the red pill territory; but, on the plus side, empowerment comes with it too. And new optimism surfaces.
 
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Colossus is right:

A final thought: Too much manosphere is toxic. It's bad enough that you have to deal with this crap on a weekly basis, you don't need constant reinforcement and saturation from reading cynical blogs and angry rants. Sometimes it's good to insulate your self from all that.
That is why I took a break from this forum, as it can be toxic and went elsewhere to learn more.

I don' believe that 100% of women are flawed - I just haven't met one yet that is single. All the good women have been snatched up and are married, mostly happy - if not, they wont stray.

We are left with the scraps and second hand damaged goods. or the dregs of women hood.

I have found my solution to have the best that they can offer and that is my modus of operation from now on.
I thought that the woman in my last LTR was the "one" - but I was wrong. I was bitter, but that was six months ago and I am a completely different man to what I was then. You could say that I have wised up and become more self reliant in the process. After all, if you NEED some one to fulfill your life, then you need to mend that hole in your psyche - after all, your soul is with you 100% of the time and it is essential to be happy with yourself and if sh!t happens in your life, to be able to handle it by yourself.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Atom Smasher said:
The real horror of it all is the astounding depth and breadth of modern woman's decline.

It wouldn't be so bad if 20 or 30 percent were halfway decent human beings, but I honestly believe the number is less than 1%.
Then the question is: why would you not only post on a forum about how to get women, but do the thankless task of moderating here?

Seriously, if I went to a car enthusiast forum and b*tched in every thread about how cars were overpriced, useless, awful to be around, and that less than 1% were even worthwhile to buy, I bet the people in that forum would tell me to GTFO.

This is the only forum where guys sit around talking about something they don't even seem to like.

Very strange.
 

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I am grateful to Atom Smasher and the other mods for doing what is indeed a thankless task.

But I also agree with something you said:

This is the only forum where guys sit around talking about something they don't even seem to like.

Because I said it first :)

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2070832&postcount=13
"We are all gathered here to discuss how to attract women; and yet we hate women at the same time. You don't see posts on other forums like that. No one is on the tractor forum saying These tractors are out to get us! I hate them!"
 

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Colossus said:
Men are the great enablers of women, because we want pvssy, and we (collectively) buy the social schemas that have been propagated for years.
It's not merely social conditioning that makes us desire women, however. We are biologically hard wired to respond to that shape, the female shape, and respond to it in a big way. This is a built in advantage that women have when it comes to dating. A lot of PUA theory seems designed around trying to negate this advantage that they have, although I'm not convinced they have ever been totally successful.

This female advantage has in the past been negated by their need for protection, shelter, and financial support. All things that males were well suited to provide. However, now that the state has taken over these roles, and women are able to get jobs to support themselves, the battle of the sexes has arguably become unbalanced. This is why sex (and specifically the female body) has been so promoted and worshipped in the modern world.

Even though we are wired to respond to their shape, that doesn't mean we are wired to pedestalize them, see them as superiors, or raise their feminist causes as our own. That is something that the feminized culture has been trying to condition in us.

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A final thought: Too much manosphere is toxic. It's bad enough that you have to deal with this crap on a weekly basis, you don't need constant reinforcement and saturation from reading cynical blogs and angry rants. Sometimes it's good to insulate your self from all that.
Good point. I know several times I've wanted to step away from this forum, just to get away from all the negativity (and in some cases, ignorance) that is rampart here. So far I've never stayed away more than a few days though :)
 

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Zarky said:
Then the question is: why would you not only post on a forum about how to get women, but do the thankless task of moderating here?

Seriously, if I went to a car enthusiast forum and b*tched in every thread about how cars were overpriced, useless, awful to be around, and that less than 1% were even worthwhile to buy, I bet the people in that forum would tell me to GTFO.

This is the only forum where guys sit around talking about something they don't even seem to like.

Very strange.
Your logic, as usual, is flawed. You're consistent in that regard, I'll give you that.

Many cars are not overpriced, cars are not useless, they are great to be around, and many are worthwhile to buy.

This has been explained to you before by many others here but since I'm in a good mood I'll lay it down for you one more time....

Observation and discussion of realities is a necessary part of the process of finding solutions. Problems must be defined and understood before effecting workable solutions.

Thanks to SS I now have girls a-plenty. I have all the money I could ever want, and live a life that is productive and provides value to others. I enjoy moderating this forum as it allows me to positively help those men who are struggling and baffled by the current "entitled" behavior of modern women.

If I spent my life couch surfing and dissipating myself in the relentless pursuit of pvssy, I would probably find myself broke and spending most of my time on this forum KJing the days away. Since that scenario is unthinkable for me, I like to be a part of understanding the problems at hand and being a part of devising ways for men to counter the forces that work against us and try to make this world a better place for us.
 

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And to think that I thought I had a serious problem given that at 26 years old I seem to have lost most of my interest in dating. Maybe its just that I know what things are really like, that most human beings are shallow short term thinking idiots, and I just don't want to put in the effort.

The best way out is to assemble (what we call in Engineering) a core team of women to fulfill you needs as follows:

Love Your mom, sister and close family.

Friendship Well balanced women you can hang with, with your male buddies who enjoy the things you do - such as watching and playing sport, drinking buddies, dancing partners, etc.

Sex Easy - pay for it. You earn enough money! So once or twice a month have it with a hooker. Then you can enjoy HB9 without all their sh!t. If you are a regular, it's surprising how much enjoyment they will give you. All you have to do is to treat them properly as you would any other lover that you've been with previously. All women are slvts at heart anyway! So put why up with thei
^ I see myself going that road more and more.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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