“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Best way to ask her out again?

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Met up with a bumble date Saturday night. We had been texting for a week or two and seemed to hit it off. It seemed like we really hit it off on the date. She was laughing and smiling the entire time. Lots in common. Definitely excellent chemistry. We grabbed drinks and food then called it a night when they started playing loud club music.

I sent a playful "nice to meet you" type text yesterday and her response was fairly positive over a couple messages. Neither of us have initiate a text today yet. She's 29 and "likes the man to take the lead".

This was my best date in a long time and I'd like to see her again, but should I make playful conversation a few days before asking her out again, or not beat around the bush and ask if she'd like to go out again this weekend?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Personally I’d leave the playful conversation to the date itself and get round to asking her out again.

If I’ve learned anything in the last year it’s that you can feel like a date was 200% pure high octane awesome only to find she doesn’t give a s*** and is onto her next plate.

At least if you go straight for the ask you either speed up her flaking or if she’s genuinely interested next date should happen quickly.
 

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Personally I’d leave the playful conversation to the date itself and get round to asking her out again.

If I’ve learned anything in the last year it’s that you can feel like a date was 200% pure high octane awesome only to find she doesn’t give a s*** and is onto her next plate.

At least if you go straight for the ask you either speed up her flaking or if she’s genuinely interested next date should happen quickly.
That's what I was thinking, direct is best sometimes. She did delete her bumble profile yesterday. Might be a good sign.
 

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Did you kiss her?
 

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That's what I was thinking, direct is best sometimes. She did delete her bumble profile yesterday. Might be a good sign.
Ask her out but I think your princess is already in another castle, either way, you will find out. She might have deleted YOU from her bumble matches. Only way to find out and not waste time on this chick is to ask her out, if she says no and doesn't counter then you have your answer.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Ask her out but I think your princess is already in another castle, either way, you will find out. She might have deleted YOU from her bumble matches. Only way to find out and not waste time on this chick is to ask her out, if she says no and doesn't counter then you have your answer.
It actually said "deleted user" and on the date she hinted online dating wasn't really for her. But she just texted me so looking OK so far, thanks for the reply!
 

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I am going to be honest with you and mean no disrespect but if you think this woman deleted the app because she had such a great first date you have to be delusional. Sounds like you are already headed down the road of oneitis with this one after one date.

I would be very careful, women delete dating apps for many reasons, got back with her ex is number one on the list. As for her saying that online dating isn’t for her means nothing. I have had women who thought they were too good for online dating and then once she started getting bombarded by hundreds of messages from dudes she changed her tune. Never listen to what a woman says. Just go with the flow and expect nothing from this chick. Best of luck. Let us know how it turns out.
 

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She may have:

1. Deleted the app because she likes you.

2. Deleted the app because she has 10 guys on her phone now and doesn’t need any more atm.

3. Deleted you on the app but she’s still on there. She just told you it wasn’t for her.

4. Deleted the app because she’s already on another app and a dating site.

5. Deleted the app because she met another guy in RL (or hooked up with the ex).

As Mazer said, it doesn’t matter what she says to you at this stage.

I’ve had countless girls tell me they’re “tired of the cliches on online dating” or “I’m not sure Tinder is for me” only for them to flake on a date or timewaste me.
 

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Just set the next date up already and dont over think the situation.

"Hey you....I am going to check out this place on ____ night. You should join me. Pick you up around 8?"

You are taking the lead (which she already made clear that she likes) and straight to the point.

You either get a yes (and her address in case you didnt pick her up for date 1), a counter offer, or anything else which means lay low for a couple of weeks before initiating anything else.

Make the move.
 

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Jesus, some of y'all are over thinking this like a mfr. Text her if you want to text her, but don't blow her up and don't text her with some lame convo. If you can't banter, now is the time to learn. Making mistakes are inevitable, so you might as well get out and start doing. Doing exactly what you feel like doing at any given moment. It's good for increasing your social intelligence, gauging and learning how to calibrate. Stop sweating the trivial chit. I have very few rules I live by, when it comes to women and even then, it's not really about them. @Espi mentioned it. Don't get your expectations up, especially with OLD. When you do, one of two things will happen. Either, she won't live up to your expectations, but most likely it will freeze your ability to calibrate in real time and be yourself, because you've pedestalized her and instead of just being, you are now acting in a way that you think is congruent with how you think she wants you to act, just to impress/keep her. This is the exact opposite of abundance mindset and congratulations, you've now entered her frame. If you're lucky, she will toss you aside. If you happen to stumble across an opportunist, you are in for a world of hurt.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Thanks for the responses guys. Definitely not naive enough to think she deleted it especially for me but she comes from a strict conservative catholic family and I didn't get any sloot vibes from her.

So this one is a little tough. I did ask her out again this weekend, she initially kind of dodged the question but then came back and said "yes I'd like that actually but this weekend probably won't work" with no alternative offered. Actually before I even got the chance to ask her out again she randomly stated that she really enjoyed our 1st date conversation, which I then followed up with the weekend invite. She's been texting pretty often, we have good text exchanges, with her putting more effort (more & longer messages). At this point I'll just play it cool, respond as she initiates, and no hurry to ask her out again.
 

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Thanks for the responses guys. Definitely not naive enough to think she deleted it especially for me but she comes from a strict conservative catholic family and I didn't get any sloot vibes from her.

So this one is a little tough. I did ask her out again this weekend, she initially kind of dodged the question but then came back and said "yes I'd like that actually but this weekend probably won't work" with no alternative offered. Actually before I even got the chance to ask her out again she randomly stated that she really enjoyed our 1st date conversation, which I then followed up with the weekend invite. She's been texting pretty often, we have good text exchanges, with her putting more effort (more & longer messages). At this point I'll just play it cool, respond as she initiates, and no hurry to ask her out again.
Wait 5-7 days, ask her out again with exact time and place, if she says anything other then yes, next.
And don't initiate at all until then.
 

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So little update:

We went on a 2nd date Wednesday. Met and took my car downtown to see some 3D iMax film then grabbed food afterwards. Conversation was excellent. Felt really comfortable around each other. She remarked that we "really clicked". She asked if I was dating other girls. I said "eh not really" but she played it off saying she was curious "how people date these days" then claimed she has been too busy to date seriously since her last relationship 3 years ago. Told me she doesn't fall fast for people but does fall hard. Definitely comes off as very traditional Catholic Latina, not your average sloot. Sent a follow up text last night and she responded as she normally does.

Guess the only thing that throws me off is she doesn't initiate texts often. She has said she likes the man to "take the lead" but I'm just used to being chased. Seemed like she initiated more when we were chit chatting leading up to the dates. I did not text her last weekend but when I finally did she responded with "thought I had lost you there for a minute" which seems like a good sign she was waiting for me.

Should I keep initiating when I feel like texting her, pull back and wait for her to make a move, or just send nothing and ask her out again in a few days? Tnx guys!
 

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Met up with a bumble date Saturday night. We had been texting for a week or two and seemed to hit it off. It seemed like we really hit it off on the date. She was laughing and smiling the entire time. Lots in common. Definitely excellent chemistry. We grabbed drinks and food then called it a night when they started playing loud club music.

I sent a playful "nice to meet you" type text yesterday and her response was fairly positive over a couple messages. Neither of us have initiate a text today yet. She's 29 and "likes the man to take the lead".

This was my best date in a long time and I'd like to see her again, but should I make playful conversation a few days before asking her out again, or not beat around the bush and ask if she'd like to go out again this weekend?
29?



Gross. Have you no self respect? You want a woman that spent the last decade plus running through *** shots and now wants to play house?

Have you no honor?

You don't ask women out. This isn't the 50s where women are making sandwiches and seeking a husband. Its the social media generation, women running through *** shots, having children out of wedlock, and their life being a series of used condoms and aborted fetuses.

Ain't doing it right.

You don't ask. Real men tell women what they are doing. Step your game up kuz.
 

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Never listen to what a woman says. Just go with the flow and expect nothing from this chick. Best of luck. Let us know how it turns out.
+ 1

Deleted app because she had a perfect first dated.



Women are a classic example of the chameleon. You wait for sex TS but, she is taking it in the pooper and swallowing her ex's loads. This is what you get when you date past prime SMV.

Her best years were a sexual rollercoaster. She pumps the breaks for you because she is not like that.

How any man can be so naïve as to believe she deleted the app because of you is comical at best.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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29?



Gross. Have you no self respect? You want a woman that spent the last decade plus running through *** shots and now wants to play house?

Have you no honor?

You don't ask women out. This isn't the 50s where women are making sandwiches and seeking a husband. Its the social media generation, women running through *** shots, having children out of wedlock, and their life being a series of used condoms and aborted fetuses.

Ain't doing it right.

You don't ask. Real men tell women what they are doing. Step your game up kuz.
You must be insecure as fvck to be so concerned about a woman's past sex life. Personally, I want her to have tons of experience: it makes her more enjoyable in bed and shows she has a high libido. Btw, tons of 22 year olds have gone through 20+ dudes, many girls go wild in college and tone it down when they graduate.
 

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You must be insecure as fvck to be so concerned about a woman's past sex life. Personally, I want her to have tons of experience: it makes her more enjoyable in bed and shows she has a high libido. Btw, tons of 22 year olds have gone through 20+ dudes, many girls go wild in college and tone it down when they graduate.
Not an argument dip ****. You sound like a cuck with really low testosterone. Also, a male feminist. You call yourself a man?

Tons of western women are skiing down cawk mountain, running through dudes, and roping in retards like you for marriage before cucking your stupid ass!

Not my first rodeo.







You mad?

Step your game kuz! I'll bump this after you get cucked. lulz
 
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Not an argument dip ****. You sound like a cuck with really low testosterone. Also, a male feminist. You call yourself a man?

Tons of western women are skiing down cawk mountain, running through dudes, and roping in retards like you for marriage before cucking your stupid ass!

Not my first rodeo.







You mad?

Step your game kuz! I'll bump this after you get cucked. lulz
How do you find young girls at your age?

Only way I find them is Seeking Arrangement.
 

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Not an argument dip ****. You sound like a cuck with really low testosterone. Also, a male feminist. You call yourself a man?

Tons of western women are skiing down cawk mountain, running through dudes, and roping in retards like you for marriage before cucking your stupid ass!

Not my first rodeo.







You mad?

Step your game kuz! I'll bump this after you get cucked. lulz
lol "not an argument" followed by red herrings and gifs.

I had two LTRs that were virgins (before me). I didn't realize it at the time but the sex was bad. When I started having sex more regularly with different girls, I found that the ones who had had multiple partners were by far the most enthusiastic and exciting.

Keep living your neckbeard fantasy of a horny virgin; she doesn't exist.
 

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Did this date end with a kiss or sex?
No. When I dropped her at her car, I playfully said ok give me a hug and maybe a kiss. She laughed and said "too soon for a kiss but here's a hug". She did try some of my ice cream eating with my spoon? Lol. For what its worth she is very traditional latina from South America from a strict conservative family so considering the rest of the date was excellent I didn't sweat the non-kiss but realize it is a sign.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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