"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Best First Date Choices...?

SoSuaveDude

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okay, based on experience, what are some great dating environments you usually pick for a fresh HB? I'm 18, and I figure a restaurant would be too romantic, while a movie theater date might completely backfire. What are your opinions? is the theater decent? And I'm thinking about bowling or arcade, but those might be overcrowded with outside "competiton"
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I think Falcon25 said something like:

Alcohol = Sex, Food = Sleep


Having said that though, if you are from the US and can't drink until you are 21 (?), then I would avoid anything "boring" like dinner or a movie.

Action date is best, since it allows opportunities for Kino. Ignore outside competition, since if she is really into you, she won't care.
 

SoSuaveDude

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thanks runner! I figured that those were primarily Afc spots, and I guess I'll have to do an action date. does anyone have anymore advice?
 

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Runner is right. Action dates are best. I wouldn't worry about competition. She's YOUR date after all. If she spends the night talking to other guys, then obviously she's a skank anyway.

Bowling. Arcade. Skating. Music show (not a LOUD show, but more of a lounge scene where you can still talk). Art show.

I don't know what 18 year olds do, but I'm just thinking of places that won't require you to be 21. Alcohol is usually a part of my dates.

And you're right. Movie dates suck. And save the restaurant dates for real girlfriends, not fresh HBs.
 

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I'm going to completely agree with everyone else. Bowling / Arcade / (ice) skating / walk in the park.

Action dates require a complete different environment than 'romantic' dates. Instead of creating a silent atmosphere, it focuses on creating an atmosphere with tons of external stimuli. These external stimuli create great distraction for when you hardly know the girl and you want to focus on getting to know her and see how fun she is.

In case she turns out to be completely dull, a bit shy or your lose frame and get nervous, the environment and your activities create a nice distraction, allowing silences not to be awkward and still giving her the idea that she's having a great time(And you as well).

That, and what was said about food = sleep.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Yeah dam looks like you guys already got all the best ones, these are the usual ones i get the most advancement on chicks whilst on a first date and ironically they are the cheapest options haha.

Pool is another good one or i use to have a youth hostel where you could just sit down in the lounge if your a yearly member (dosn't cost much money). Then you can have a drink and watch a late night movie (which your not even paying attention to) with her whilst your just talking casually, this one worked quite well as well. Mini golf is supposably quite good from what i hear, but never done one seeing there is none in my area. I also did tennis a few times as well, which went quite well, but it really depends on the girl.

After you had these dates, which are fun, active, quick, cheap and don't take much thought. You then can start investing more time or money doing dates which are a bit more creative and personal like swimming, taking her to your house to watch a movie or teaching her how to massage, festival/theme parks, firework shows, zoo's, getting her to cook you some food at her place. There is a link below to another thread where DJ damage posted a huge number of options as well, which i recommend.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=115616

Btw way what do you mean sosuavedude when you say outside competition? If your reffereing to a guy picking up ur girl that usually won't happen unless i am on the scene haha, but that sort of stuff happens A LOT more in night clubs and stuff. If you mean competing with activities and trying to talk to her, it dosn't matter if shes distracted and having fun thats a good thing, just make sure to be a competitive and a be sore winner (because yeah us guys never lose to girls) to add a bit of spice to the bowling and arcade.
 
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