Best advice you can ever get: Start pumping some iron

[tmpgstx]

You guys need to learn how to measure! Not to mention 170 on a 5'8 frame with low body fat is heavy enough.

The muscle/fat thing alot of people do not have an accurate perception of. It differs for alot of people. Arnold at his peak was only 237! Lou was 293! Huge difference but similiar sizes. There are large ripped bodybuilders over 6 feet that are only in the 190 range or less.

Tysons arms and Holyfield's arms are only 16 - you're saying your arms are bigger? A 45 inch chest on a 5'8 frame? Both Tyson and Holy are 45 expanded, and taller than you!

 

[Jippii]

I'd like to see a pic just because a 26 inch waist is fkin TINY so you probably have a good ol crazy V-taper.



Anywaysss since pumping iron I just cringe at the tips I read here.... It's soooooooooo much easier. You feel like this is almost nerdy haha :cheer:

 

[Blinky]

I'm really susprised you could have those arms and chest at that weight..must look pretty ripped, wud love to see pics if ui have n e ?


My stats
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5' 8"

Chest 44"
Biceps 15"
Waist 29"
Weight 170lbs

 

[sharpshooter]

Originally posted by tmpgstx
You guys need to learn how to measure! Not to mention 170 on a 5'8 frame with low body fat is heavy enough.

The muscle/fat thing alot of people do not have an accurate perception of. It differs for alot of people. Arnold at his peak was only 237! Lou was 293! Huge difference but similiar sizes. There are large ripped bodybuilders over 6 feet that are only in the 190 range or less.

Tysons arms and Holyfield's arms are only 16 - you're saying your arms are bigger? A 45 inch chest on a 5'8 frame? Both Tyson and Holy are 45 expanded, and taller than you!

You made some good points in the first paragraph about the difference and weight.

But dude, what does chest and bicep size have to do with height??? There is no relation. With weight/frame/height it makes sense. But to say chest and bicep size has something to do with height is laughable.

Keep in mind Tyson does not build his body for looks, boxers train for BOXING, because he's a BOXER. His forearms alone are 15 inches, that's huge. That's why his arm altogether looks so damn bulky. My forearms are nowhere near that level, because I don't need huge forearms, a boxer does.

 

[JackPrescott]

Pumping iron helps, but in the end, you land up buff, and able to bench and squat cadillacs, with washboard abs, while fat guys wearing FUBU sweatsuits have the hotties sitting on their laps.

 

[white cloud 8]

Originally posted by JackPrescott
Pumping iron helps, but in the end, you land up buff, and able to bench and squat cadillacs, with washboard abs, while fat guys wearing FUBU sweatsuits have the hotties sitting on their laps.

Wow....we truly live in a screwed up world :crackup:.

 

[Pure Drive +]

Originally posted by JackPrescott
Pumping iron helps, but in the end, you land up buff, and able to bench and squat cadillacs, with washboard abs, while fat guys wearing FUBU sweatsuits have the hotties sitting on their laps.

You must be fat.

And lazy.

And a loser. Good luck sucking at life!

 

[JackPrescott]

Originally posted by white cloud 8
Wow....we truly live in a screwed up world :crackup:.

Pure Drive, this is not true. I just call it as I see it cool breeze! I dont see how I "suck at life" because crack dealers with Prison "bic pen" tats and shaved heads and FUBU sweatsuits sleep naked with model quality women, while the normal men go home alone.

 

[Pure Drive +]

Originally posted by JackPrescott
Pure Drive, this is not true. I just call it as I see it cool breeze! I dont see how I "suck at life" because crack dealers with Prison "bic pen" tats and shaved heads and FUBU sweatsuits sleep naked with model quality women, while the normal men go home alone.

I'm talking about your mindset. Those model quality women are not relationship quality women. Those are the real women that are worth knowing and worth more than a quick lay if even that (drugs/STDs).

Don't think like that man. Unless you want to resort to that dark and self-deprecating way of life, self-improvement and bettering your life for yourself is the only way. Cheers.

 

[Virtú]

True, those women are either too stupid or too high/drunk to know what they're getting into, and the guy also has that "badass appeal" working for him.

However, you're probably also dodging the other side of the issue: everybody hates people with better bodies than them, it's human nature.

Know that you are envious of guys who are bigger and stronger than yourself, then try to use that envy to fuel your own efforts in the gym, rather than giving in to the "slave morality" and rationalizing and embracing weakness.

Lifting weights hurts like Hell and healthy food tastes like sh!t, you don't need to tell anyone that; but one of the measures of a man is how much he's prepared to suffer for what he wants.

Are you man enough to handle the pain ... or are you a pusssy making excuses?

 

[JackPrescott]

Originally posted by Virtú
True, those women are either too stupid or too high/drunk to know what they're getting into, and the guy also has that "badass appeal" working for him.

However, you're probably also dodging the other side of the issue: everybody hates people with better bodies than them, it's human nature.

Know that you are envious of guys who are bigger and stronger than yourself, then try to use that envy to fuel your own efforts in the gym, rather than giving in to the "slave morality" and rationalizing and embracing weakness.

Lifting weights hurts like Hell and healthy food tastes like sh!t, you don't need to tell anyone that; but one of the measures of a man is how much he's prepared to suffer for what he wants.

Are you man enough to handle the pain ... or are you a pusssy making excuses?

It's the "badass appeal" that gets men laid, not muscularity. This is not circa 1884 Venice Beach when having a body beautiful meant something to women. These days they want crack dealers, not guys who hit the gym.

 

[JackPrescott]

I meant "Circa 1984" Venice Beach......women these days want a man with an Impala and a criminal record.

 

[Virtú]

Then join your local gang and/or drug ring, commit some crimes, go to jail for however many years, and when you come out, women will be throwing themselves at you.

 

[Lifeforce]

Originally posted by JackPrescott
I meant "Circa 1984" Venice Beach......women these days want a man with an Impala and a criminal record.

Who the **** cares what women want? You can't build up your lives around what women want but it's easier to find a girl who like you for what you value in your life! Lifting is not about women at all, it's about overcomming yourself, pressuring yourself to higher levels. Many women will want you, hell yes, they love ripped bodies, they love strong men because that means that he is man enough to protect her.

Women these days don't want anything it's a pretty big generalization of all the women. They are all individuals and want different things. Some insecure, good looking girls will like your drug dealers. Some others secure good looking ones will like the lifter. I really prefer a girl who is not ****ed up in the head and actually are worth being in a relationship with.

Feel free to **** up your life for some tail or get to the ****ing gym and squat! Be a loser or a winner. The easy way or the hard way.

 

[Pure Drive +]

Originally posted by JackPrescott
I meant "Circa 1984" Venice Beach......women these days want a man with an Impala and a criminal record.

You're the expert. So question is, what the hell is stopping you? Visiting a forum doesn't really bring you closer to your goal of having "an Impala and a criminal record." hahahaahaha:crackup:

 

[Virtú]

It is a cruel twist of fate that the easy way should be so unfulfilling ... or that happiness must be bought with pain.

 

[Lifeforce]

Originally posted by Virtú
It is a cruel twist of fate that the easy way should be so unfulfilling ... or that happiness must be bought with pain.

It's very unfullfilling to get everything you want. When you put pain and determination behind your gain you can feel you have acomplished something.

 

[JackPrescott]

Originally posted by Virtú
Then join your local gang and/or drug ring, commit some crimes, go to jail for however many years, and when you come out, women will be throwing themselves at you.

I am beginning to think that this is the way to go! One 20 year old I know is writing love letters with a Federal Convict in Colorado, and another 23 year old is in love with a convicted muderer! Here I am pumping iron, buliding a wonderful bachelor pad, going to school, and working my a$$ off 6 days a week, and trying to be a DJ and getting nothing but "I only see you as a friend" meanwhile convicts in colorado have dates lined up for when they get out of prison! Talk about game.

 

[JackPrescott]

Originally posted by Lifeforce
It's very unfullfilling to get everything you want. When you put pain and determination behind your gain you can feel you have acomplished something.

This is bull. If I hit the lotto tomarrow, and walked with 69 million, as the "escorts" that the Palm lined up for me in Vegas fought to see who got to blow me first at "Rain" under the table, it would not bother me in the least that there was no pain and determination behind the gain.

 

[h2o]

It's funny to see you guys take this Jack dude seriously, and actually try to combat his retarded comments. Everyone knows you're a ****ing troll Jack...get outta here...besides, it seems like you're not getting much from being here. Have fun getting raped in prison.