"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Being "nice" got me HB9

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So this HB9, 19 who's friends with my flatmate, has a rep as an AW, stringing guys along etc.

I'm in a position where I have a pretty full roster, so i'm in abundance.

She comes over last night and i'm just talking with her, listening, not making much of an effort apart from eye contact.

Anyways after listening to her for like 30 minutes she starts saying "your so nice" "I can talk to you about anything" "you aren't like all the other guys"

I.E, "you aren't acting like a horny teenager throwing your jizz at me

Anyways I was going for a beer with my mate, and my flatty and HB9 were going to dance, HB9 wanted to meet us in town so I just said we are going to play pool..

Guess what, HB9 "loves pool, wants to come play pool with me", at this stage shes initiating kino in form of "smell my perfume on me", doing approval seeking "do i look good, am i fat?"

So I just say you guys go dance, come see us later.

Anyway got them to come to pool with us, heavy kino, went home, sealed the deal.

Today shes been texting me wanting to go to the beach tomorrow etc, easy work.

The non pickup approach WORKS!


Get to town, text my flatty where we are,
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Good job.

Anyway, the 'non pick-up' works cause she liked you, you did nothing, just follow they flow...and you got it cause SHE WANTED TO GIVE IT TO YOU. lol.

Last night I fvcked up with a 20 years old...gonna commit suicide now.

Just out of curiosity, how did you manage to bang her? I mean, where, how...etc.
YOu have a place of your own I supose?
 

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I think the key to this was that you are in abundance. I believe through body language and small signals girls who are used to interacting with people (most hot girls) can tell just by the way a guy acts if he gets a lot of girls.

But good job I'll try it out not try to hit on every girl I meet and I might get one randomly like that
 

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pyros said:
Good job.

Anyway, the 'non pick-up' works cause she liked you, you did nothing, just follow they flow...and you got it cause SHE WANTED TO GIVE IT TO YOU. lol.

Last night I fvcked up with a 20 years old...gonna commit suicide now.

Just out of curiosity, how did you manage to bang her? I mean, where, how...etc.
YOu have a place of your own I supose?
I'm a lazy ass so I almost always non pickup. Works for me.

Yeah we share a house so she was going to stay in my flatmates bed (female flatmate) so I just layed the foundations while we were playing pool and it was blatantly obvious she'd be sleeping in my room instead.

Easy work
 

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there's a difference between being nice and being a "nice guy" where you think kissing a girl's ass with no spine of your own will get you laid.

being nice is good
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Its good that the opening poster is a reasonably decent looking guy with all the fundamentals in place.
 

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When a female likes you ..you don't even have to say a word to have your way with her. When the interest is 60% plus , or you have to do is be yourself. Below 50% is when you have to put in some sort of effort.
That's why I ALWAYS keep in mind that life is about preference , if one female doesn't like you , another one will.
 

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don't count your chickens before they hatch bruh, not hatin' just saiyan
 

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That definitely works with 19 year olds. They haven't had a real job before, haven't worried about money before, haven't had many real life experiences that make them jaded. They are also less superficial about looks.

Not sure it would work with a 27 year old.
 

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Most of the pick up stuff really isn't neccissary.
Just treat her like one of the guys and relax.

I have a theory.. actually its not my theory but I endorse it. The more relaxed person during the interaction automatically has the most value. So when guys ask me what's the key to getting girls, its always a one word answer...
Relax.

You relaxed your way into her vag.
Good job mate
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Infern0 said:
So this HB9, 19 who's friends with my flatmate, has a rep as an AW, stringing guys along etc.

I'm in a position where I have a pretty full roster, so i'm in abundance.

So you have social-proof and an abundance mind-set and have solid inner game.

Infern0 said:
She comes over last night and i'm just talking with her, listening, not making much of an effort apart from eye contact.
How do you look relative to her?

Infern0 said:
The non pickup approach WORKS!
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If you look hot to most women that would probably be correct. Since you have allot of women already and it's within your "reality" then I don't think what you are talking about is outside of the pick-up universe. It would be part of a discussion of looks vs. game.
 

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Yup, you get it bro. Most guys problem is they do too much. Nervous, feel like there is something to proove. Its not. Look nice, workout, be financially secure and relax. These things alone already put you above 80% of men. Just have fun like she's one of the guys and let her come around. This **** is easy once you understand.
 

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You were indifferent. Also she liked you for whatever reason.
cola said:
You relaxed your way into her vag.
Good job mate
Nice:up:
 
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Pics of HB9 please. Ive learned that guys here really overvalue many average women. Just curious is all.
 

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Infern0 said:
So this HB9, 19 who's friends with my flatmate, has a rep as an AW, stringing guys along etc.
LOL @ HB9. Everybody thinks they have a 9 or 10. Most likely the 9 is a 5 and the 10 is a 6. Women string along the losers but bang men of interest. Good job on the lay.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Suspens said:
And "I can talk to you about anything" is a sign of bad things to come though.
only for guys such as yourself.

the ones who don't get it.
 

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Alexandar said:
only for guys such as yourself.

the ones who don't get it.
^ At first I didn't read his post carefully, apparently he has banged her so no sign of impending freindzone, that's what I meant.

Get over yourself you little butthurt princess.
 

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Boxer00 said:
LOL @ HB9. Everybody thinks they have a 9 or 10. Most likely the 9 is a 5 and the 10 is a 6. Women string along the losers but bang men of interest. Good job on the lay.
She's a 9 in my eyes and I'm the only judge that matters in my world.
 

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Infern0 said:
She's a 9 in my eyes and I'm the only judge that matters in my world.
I feel you on that bro. My ex was likely a 7 to most guys...but she was a 10 to me. The way we connected just made her that much more sexier. I got that gut punch just thinking about her. Rare feeling finding that....and that was almost 7 years ago now.

Have fun with this girl.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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