highconscienceness
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Is this in general true? Women don't want a fat or out of shape guy? By want I mean just plain hitting on you.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Being fat / out of shape and being desired by women
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Turn on your tv, watch some shows, reality or otherwise. See how many fat guys are with chicks, and how many fat guys are shown as sidekicks, douchebags, the guys without gals.
Unless you are super rich, or have cocaine, you better hit the gym.
Unless you are super rich, or have cocaine, you better hit the gym.
Chosen1
Master Don Juan
I'm a stocky person and I've always been told that I'm handsome. I'm not really in shape but I'm not outta of shape. I don't think it would hurt to get in shape though
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
everywomanshero
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There have been some studies on this actually. Women selected men who had an muscular, slim build. Basically, you want to look healthy and fit because well that usually means you're eating the right amount of calories and getting some cardio and it's not a bad thing that women find it attractive. Being in shape combined with nice, pressed clothing should also help in your professional career too as it projects someone who is very organized and cares about his image. It doesn't hurt if you're on the taller side either.
SandHawk
Master Don Juan
I got angry a few weeks ago. Really angry, and I turned all that anger into sports. I started climbing, doing push ups, and to be honest, I ahven't been this in shape since years. And all the sudden, I'm getting checked out ALL the ****ing time.
I feel awesome because I look awesome because I feel awesome. It's recursive! Sure, I don't super muscular since I've only been ramming my anger into this for 6 weeks, but dang bro, I shaped up a lot since I started this, and in other month, I'll have my six pack back, bigger shoulders and arms. And on top of that, when I'm hanging on that wall climbing up a difficult route and I reach the top, I feel powerful!
I feel awesome because I look awesome because I feel awesome. It's recursive! Sure, I don't super muscular since I've only been ramming my anger into this for 6 weeks, but dang bro, I shaped up a lot since I started this, and in other month, I'll have my six pack back, bigger shoulders and arms. And on top of that, when I'm hanging on that wall climbing up a difficult route and I reach the top, I feel powerful!
Paintballguy
Master Don Juan
Would you be turned on by a fat out of shape woman? That is your answer.
You don't have to look like pro body builder. Just be lean and have some muscle on your frame.
You don't have to look like pro body builder. Just be lean and have some muscle on your frame.
Nutz
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:sigh. another looks vs game thread:highconscienceness said:
If you're fat and out of shape, getting in shape will markedly improve the quality of girls you naturally can attract, with or without game. It just raises the bar for the baseline quality of looks the women will have. Call it "leagues" if you want. Game will only net you women a point or two above your own level, so if you want 10s then you better be an 8 or 9 yourself. If you're happy with 7s and the occasional 8 then being a 6 with tight Game it's possible.
As a rule of thumb, the better looking you are EASIER it will be to attract women. and the ones you attract will also be better looking.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
nismo-4
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Here we go again. Just a Shot Away will be here any minute.
You will be desired by women when you're fat & out of shape if you're rich, famous, or have access to drugs. If you don't have any of those, you better have alcohol, hit the gym, get plastic surgery, etc.
The more of these you have, the merrier. You'll attract more women and better looking women too, giving you more choosing power and less bullsh*t like I have a boyfriend or LJBF.
Case closed.
You will be desired by women when you're fat & out of shape if you're rich, famous, or have access to drugs. If you don't have any of those, you better have alcohol, hit the gym, get plastic surgery, etc.
The more of these you have, the merrier. You'll attract more women and better looking women too, giving you more choosing power and less bullsh*t like I have a boyfriend or LJBF.
Case closed.
kingsam
Master Don Juan
ive seen infield videos of RSD tyler picking up when he was like 240 llbs - pretty fat - and could still pull, tho he does have the tightest game.....
(intersting to see if the general baseline of hotness of the women fell during that period)
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well no wonder JASA keeps popping up if people talk sh!te like this.....
thinking this crap just becomes a self fulfilling prohecy...
(intersting to see if the general baseline of hotness of the women fell during that period)
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WTF?nismo-4 said:
well no wonder JASA keeps popping up if people talk sh!te like this.....
thinking this crap just becomes a self fulfilling prohecy...
teacha
Senior Don Juan
no, its not true.highconscienceness said:
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leagues?! seriously now this is getting ridiculous.Nutz said:
like Pook said: The high standards you apply to your desires must be applied to yourself.
You can totally get 7's and the occasional 8 as a fat or out of shape guy, but these girls are going to have very low self-esteem and sometimes mental issues. How do I know this? Because I've pulled them as a skinny guy without much muscle definition.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.