"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Being an a$$hole turning on me??...

Ken785

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ok ill admit, im usually a very nice guy. but lately ive been an a$$hole to one of my roommates hb9 because im interested in her. im nice to everyone else but kinda been a d!ck to her. now i think its working against me. she has been asking favors in front of all my friends. but she does it in a way where i HAVE TO do it because there is no other choice... like the other day at my house party..."ken...can you make me a drink?" (because she was busy playing poker and i was doing sh!t i HAD to get it)

"ken...can you poor more vodka?" (bewcause she was playing poker and couldnt get up from her hand)

or "ken...can you get a beer for me and open it?" (the beer was right in front of her but she says she has nothing to open it with..)

my problem is...i dont want to look like an afc who does eveything she says in hopes of getting into here pants. how do i fix this? i know its a little confusing....
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Wyldfire

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This girl has a boyfriend. You can continue to fantasize about her and spend your evenings overanalyzing every stupid little interaction and cuffing your puppy or you can go out and find a girl who is actually both available and interested in you. The choice is yours...
 

Jariel

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Wyldfire said:
This girl has a boyfriend. You can continue to fantasize about her and spend your evenings overanalyzing every stupid little interaction and cuffing your puppy or you can go out and find a girl who is actually both available and interested in you. The choice is yours...
Good advice!

Plus, acting the jerk IS AFC behaviour. You pretty much admitted you are doing it because you like her so you are supplicating (albeit indirectly). Stop trying to win her over and accept she'll either like you for who you (really) are, or not at all.

It's a major mistake guys make in thinking they can alter their behaviour and it will impress women. You have to work on the fundamentals.
 

Gonzalo

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Ken, could you please stop asking retarded questions....?

Kiddin. Anyways, dude, who told you that acting like a jerk is the way to get a girl interesed? Negs and ball busting have a specific function and purpose in the context of a pickup... they're not the entire game.

Besides, you DO NOT 'have' to do any favors to anybody... She asks you for some retarded thing like opening her beer? Throw back some CF: "What am *I* getting....? ;) Then WHATEVER she replies, say "not good enough, open your own beer." Simple.
 

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Ken, you already said you've been an a$$hole to this chick, so why not continue on and say "I'll play your hand, you go make drinks for the both of us", or: "I thought you could open beers with your teeth?"

She is playing you. This hb9 has probably pulled this stuff on other guys as well, which is why she seems to be good at getting you to do things else you look stupid. It's happened to me, and these situations can be very frustrating. My retort was to simply not do what she says, no matter how bad (I thought) I looked. Trust me, what she is doing to you is not going unnoticed by others. Stick up for yourself. She'll stop soon enough once she sees you're not a pushover.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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flexion_

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Who said anything about being an *******?
 

thefonz

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Good advice from Wyld and Jariel,

I've always had a habit of getting into these power struggles with people and most of the time it's not really worth it. Usually when I do get in these fights I"m in an irritable mood and I crave those feelings of dominating somebody completely.....and the truth is I'm NEVER satisfied and and little setback in my domineering makes me even madder.

It's best just to let it go and focus on something else, get away from this girl cus she makes you behave in ways you don't want to.
 

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Jerk behavior will only entice those who are willing to deal with it. And those who are willing to deal with it are always going to be women with low self-esteem who think they deserve it for one reason or another. You'll never be able to sustain a healthy tie with a woman who chooses to deal with jerk/abusive behavior.

There is a difference between being a dominant male, and an abusive douche.
 
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