"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Being a nice guy, is it really that bad??

foxhound87

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Gentleman, I personally believe that being a nice isn't that bad. However before you grill me let me elaborate. There is different degrees of being a nice guy, and as long as you stick to your guns you will be just fine. :up:

For starters you need to have confidence I cannot stress this enough, not the fake Kind (bravado) but the real kind that takes longer than a few months or years to develop. I beleive confidence is knowing what you want and not being afraid of going after it.

Secondly treating people with respect is a huge one, treat people the way you want to be treated. (I know it's tacy but its true) However if someone tries to bring you down, insult you, rip you off etc you must put your foot down and make a stand.

Thirdly, learn to control your alcohol intake. Every night I work I constantly see guys and girls who can't handle their alcohol. (Especially Americans:crackup: ) I'm not saying you should stay sober, just learn your limit otherwise no one will give you any respect. Every night I have to break up fights, kick drunk bastards out and clean up their mess.

The above examples are just a few of what makes a GOOD nice guy, I'm sure you guys have heard it all before though. What ever you do though, don't act


  • Needy
    Desperate
    Shy
    Weird
    Please whatever you do don't say that your in love with a girl after seeing her three times, it makes me sick
    Try not to give into her games, it's hard I know but hold your ground (She will respect you more)

I hope guys liked my input I know it's nothing really new, but hey at the end of the day you just have to do what works for you..

Cheers...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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KontrollerX

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Being a nice guy is fine.

Just don't be a needy, clingy pvssy about it and you should be fine.

Also have true love for yourself and make the focus of your life a passion of yours and not women so that if some b!tch rejects you or cheats on you then you don't fall apart you just move forward without a backward glance.
 

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actually, if you follow the DJ techniques to the letter with continual self-improvement, you will become a...

NICE GUY

a strong and very capable man that doesn't put up with sh!t but is very nice, not a jerk or *****, but a "nice guy" or I like the term "Great guy"

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I think it's time to stop using the word nice guy and start using the word wussy instead or something. Guys are confusing common decency with being a weakling. I prefer the term GreatGuy (tm) as well.
 

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reset said:
I think it's time to stop using the word nice guy and start using the word wussy instead or something. Guys are confusing common decency with being a weakling. I prefer the term GreatGuy (tm) as well.
Nah, it's still necessary, because guys who are "nice guys" will call themselves nice guys despite all the manipulative stuff they're doing.

All their female friends as well will call them "nice" because they don't want to be honest to the guy because they'd feel bad.

If we didn't call them "nice guys" and then correlate the term with wussy, we'd have thousands of people coming to this site in denial, saying "I'm not a wussy, I'm a nice guy!"
 

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Zhade said:
Nah, it's still necessary, because guys who are "nice guys" will call themselves nice guys despite all the manipulative stuff they're doing.

All their female friends as well will call them "nice" because they don't want to be honest to the guy because they'd feel bad.

If we didn't call them "nice guys" and then correlate the term with wussy, we'd have thousands of people coming to this site in denial, saying "I'm not a wussy, I'm a nice guy!"
how about pvssy, b!tch, or a variation "pvssy-b!tch"?

comic_relief
 

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"I'm a good guy, not a nice guy". That's what I've always told my girlfriends and oddly enough they just smile and completely understand what i mean by it. It's rather interesting.

Kudos,
Matt
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Kev07 said:
Actually, you left out the worst part of being a steriotypical nice guy

You're only being nice in hopes that you'll get something in return.

totally true. reaction seeking behaviour is the quality defining nice men
 

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you should be nice to women when you're supposed to
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Kev07 said:
Actually, you left out the worst part of being a steriotypical nice guy

You're only being nice in hopes that you'll get something in return.
Another HUGE thing is that it really hard to tell true nice guys apart, they are virtually indistinguishable by women. Think about it, if the first and foremost adjective that a woman uses to describe you is just "nice," what happens when she runs into a guy who she would describe as hilarious, charismatic, powerful, insightful, etc.? How does a nice guy compete with that? :confused:
 

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"Nice" is only bad when it's a euphemism for "spineless," "wussy," "sucker," or something along those lines ... which it often is.

When a man's nice, but also has some stones, women usually use other terms, such as "cool," "hot" (gotta love those temperature extremes), "sexy," etc. to describe him.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Bonhomme said:
...When a man's nice, but also has some stones, women usually use other terms, such as "cool," "hot" (gotta love those temperature extremes), "sexy," etc. to describe him.
So what would you guess a guy would rather be referred as, nice or sexy?
 

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Its bad to be an overly nice but its ok to be a generally good guy. I'm in the middle of being a complete ******* and being overly nice.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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